Il giorno 17 gennaio 2011 08:33, Yuri <[email protected]> ha scritto: > Il 16/01/2011 20:38, Luca Fabbri ha scritto: > > 2011/1/16 Fabrizio Rota<[email protected]>: >> >> >>> Dimenticavo...... Sulla questione "hit counter" ho provato a chiedere in >>> IRC. La risposta è arrivata velocissima: "cerca prima di chiedere, non >>> farci >>> perdere tempo, niente bla-bla". Accidenti! >>> LA mia nonna diceva: "chiedere è lecito, rispondere è cortesia". >>> Avrei preferito non avere risposte! >>> Lasciatemi almeno condividere lo sfogo..... >>> >>> >>> >> Molto, molto poco professionale una simile risposta. Piuttosto è >> meglio ignorare un commento che una simile risposta! >> >> Domanda: che cosa ti manca che non sia nel log HTTP di Zope/Apache? >> >> > > Implementare una viewlet che fa il grep, passare il tutto a qualche > software di analisi log web, aspettare minuti e poi stampare il numero di > download ( LOL ). > > Fabrizio: attaccare una query sql con Plone è semplice, i metodi ZSQL sono > transaction aware e sono semplici da usare. Per il discorso migrazione, c'è > solo da installare l'adapter giusto. > > > A questo punto davvero sarebbe opportuno che Plone fornisse come default anche un piccolo DB relazionale (oltre allo ZODB e al filesystem per il BLOB)..... Penso che - oltre che per i conteggi delle letture . potrebbe essere utile per implementare piccoli portlet per sondaggi immediati, che immagino soffrano dello stesso problema dei counter
> >> >> >>> faber >>> >>> Il giorno 16 gennaio 2011 17:16, Fabrizio Rota<[email protected]> >>> ha >>> scritto: >>> >>> >>>> Proprio così... e sul forum internazionale c'erano certi flames.... >>>> Io capisco che Plone funziona con lo ZODB che ha i suoi pregi e i suoi >>>> .... difetti.... >>>> Ma come si è arrivati a salvare i files sul filesystem come standard per >>>> Plone 4, spero pure si arrivi ad avere come standard la possibilità di >>>> salvare qualcosina sui database relazionali, senza dover aggiungere >>>> prodotti >>>> esterni che magari ti lasciano a piedi durante le migrazioni. >>>> So che sono scarso io.... ma per alcune cose comincio a guardare verso >>>> Drupal. >>>> >>>> faber >>>> >>>> Il giorno 16 gennaio 2011 12:31, SauZheR<[email protected]> ha >>>> scritto: >>>> >>>> >>>>> attenzione ai counter dinamici. Questo si traduce in una scrittura su >>>>> Zodb ogni volta che la pagina viene vista. con buona pace dei >>>>> meccanismi di cache. In caso di alto traffico cominciano i problemi. >>>>> >>>>> bye >>>>> >>>>> Il 15 gennaio 2011 10:13, Fabrizio Rota<[email protected]> ha >>>>> scritto: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Ho guardato un po' nei forum internazionali di Plone..... La questione >>>>>> del >>>>>> counter non è per nulla banale..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Il giorno 15 gennaio 2011 08:44, Fabrizio Rota >>>>>> <[email protected]> ha >>>>>> scritto: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Grazie. Cercavo però qualcosa che mostrasse il numero di letture >>>>>>> direttamente in calce all'articolo, senza andare ad agganciare ogni >>>>>>> volta >>>>>>> google analytics. >>>>>>> Per il content type "file" ho trovato il prodotto giusto, per il >>>>>>> resto >>>>>>> non >>>>>>> ancora. >>>>>>> Mi fa così strano vedere che a Plone manca questa caratteristica! >>>>>>> a presto >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/1/15 Vito Falco<[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>>> ho intravisto nella lista dei prodotti addizionali di plone, un >>>>>>>> portlet >>>>>>>> che si aggancia al googleAnalitycs installabile sul sito. >>>>>>>> Immagino, ma non l'ho mai utilizzato, che possa fare anche quello >>>>>>>> che >>>>>>>> dici tu. >>>>>>>> Vito >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2011/1/12 Fabrizio Rota<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> C'è qualcosa di affidabile che conti le letture di un articolo o lo >>>>>>>>> scaricamento di un file e lo mostri nella pagina stessa? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Faber >>>>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> J. >>>>>>>>> Lennon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “If you think education is expensive, try ignorance” - D. 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Bok >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fabrizio >>> -------------------- >>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" - J. >>> Lennon >>> >>> “If you think education is expensive, try ignorance” - D. Bok >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Plone-IT mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-it >>> http://www.nabble.com/Plone---Italy-f21728.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Plone-IT mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-it > http://www.nabble.com/Plone---Italy-f21728.html > -- Fabrizio -------------------- "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" - J. Lennon “If you think education is expensive, try ignorance” - D. Bok
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