On 8/3/11 12:57 AM, ken manheimer wrote:
[..]
The catalog does now about order in a folder through the
getObjPositionInParent
index. In case that's not available for sorting in a
collection (I didn't check) you can enable it in
<site>/portal_atct/atct___manageTopicIndex
Is that what you are looking for?
yes, it looks like exactly what i'm seeking. (gil forcada's
suggestion about using a custom folder display view is excellent,
too. maybe i just need to read martin aspelli's book?) i'm running
into problems getting it working, and have to investigate further.
alas, this turns out to be a false lead. the collections configlet
doesn't offer any way to change the selection of criteria for *sort
order*. it only offers ways to change the indexes to be used for
collection /searching/ and /field display/.
That's disappointing :-(
Which version of Plone?
In a somewhat older Plone 3 based site I could enable the
the index for sorting as described.
Looking into this a bit my guess is that this is due to a
new index type that was introduced for 'getObjPositionInParent'
specifically.
In Products/ATContentTypes/criteria/__init__.py ALL_INDICES and
SORT_INDICES are hard coded. What happens if you add
'GopipIndex' (the new index type) there (to both)?
If nothing happens there might be some configuration missing still.
Feel free to file a ticket for this. At least I would consider
this a regression. Oh, and this made me look whether there might
be one already and sure enough there is
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/11151
Does the patch provided there work for you?
Raphael
(moreover, adding getObjPositionInParent/'Order in folder' to the search
criteria doesn't actually add an "Order in folder" option in the
collection "Add new search criteria" menu! the getObjPositionInParent
has no "Allowed Criteria", so there's nothing by which to qualify and
disqualify items in the search. hence, the option is filtered out in
the selection form. it probably should be filtered out from the "All
fields" alternatives in the collection configlet, as well.)
still, i appreciate the suggestion - i learned something about ways to
adjust collection knobs (and limitations on those ways). i may be
better off with a custom "display" view for a folder - except i have
doubts that'll be trivial, because it requires something to hold and
edit the rich text i want to include, and that's not part of a folder.
aargh again.
it's looking, once again, like the built-in types do not provide for my
desired, basic use case, even by tailoring custom views...
ken
i did have to enable the getObjPositionInParent field in the
collections configlet (thanks much for the clear path to find my way
there), and that involved using the "All fields" link to expose the
option.
once that's done, though, i still don't see the "Order in folder"
friendly name among the collections sort criteria. i double checked
everything to see if i got the order wrong, etc, and even changed
one of the working friendly names to verify that the change shows in
the collection sort criteria list, which it did. will investigate
further soon, but mention it in case i'm (again:-) missing something.
ken
Raphael
the obvious answer is to use a collection with "No sort
order" for the
sorting criterion. unfortunately, "No sort order" doesn't
wind up being
the same sort order as that of the items in the folder, except
sometimes, by accident. (of course - the collection doesn't
consults
the catalog, not the folder, for the contents.) that's a
showstopper
for me - what i really want is to be able to adjust the
ordering of the
items in the folder in order to adjust their ordering in the
collection.
the other tantalizingly close option is to just use a
folder, with an
(optionally, customized) summary, standard, or table view,
and use the
folder Description text as the introductory text. alas, the
folder
Description is plain, not rich text.
well, how about using a collage, with a folder inside it?
aargh, that's
a mess - navigation portlets don't track the contents
properly, etc.
i know i should just create a derivative folder content type
that has an
additional, rich-text area before the listing (and after, if
i really
want). unfortunately, i've given up on finding the time to
do that, so
i'm asking if anyone has faced the same need, and found a
solution?
ken
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