On 2014-05-27 23:22, Martin Aspeli wrote:
So, I think the general problem with this is:

  - Existing developers don't like change / like their consolidated
email interface because they get a million emails per day

Latter, indeed, community.p.o is another inbox for me, so if that discourse thing becomes mainstream I'll look at it once a month or if someone points me to it at IRC or by mail. This ML was on an almost daily (say 4 times a week) read. And using gmane made it very comfortable to read and keep all ends together.

I'll use the github issue tracker for products I manage. I'll just point this out in the READMEs of products I'am maintainer of and done.

  - People who need help can't be bothered to jump through the umpteen
hoops to set up Nabble or subscribe to Mailman / don't want lots of mail
in their inbox after they posted their questions

(Or use NNTP) This is possibly true. But OTOH they get support for free. Can we expect some 'work' done by the people who need help? But does discourse solve this? Needs user/login too.

This impedance mismatch is always going to be a problem. We had the same
concern when we moved a lot of the plone-user type content to
Stackoverflow, though in general I think that's been a positive move. I

Well, and now we have yet another platform?

Jens

hope this will be too.. We may just need to decide whether want to
require our users to come to us, or if we want to come to our users, though.

Martin


On 27 May 2014 20:05, Johannes Raggam
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<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 20:47 +0200, Johannes Raggam wrote:
     > On Tue, 2014-05-27 at 09:39 -0700, ajung wrote:
     > > Well, you take away a working solution and replace it with a
    solution that
     > > possibly looks nice but
     > > does not support _basic_ functionality as
     > >
     > > - marking stuff as read
     > > - filtering
     > > - marking postings as spam
     >
     > - cannot be used with my email client.
     >
     > i'm not very convinced about this move.
     >
     > discourse is definitely the best forum software i've seen so far, and
     > the tagging feature alone is cool. maybe i will get used to, but
    i doubt
     > the discourse forum to be very advantageous to a mailing list. if
    they
     > had a mail gateway feature like on github, that would solve it.
    but they
     > don't.

    ok, that might be nonsense, according to:
    http://community.plone.org/t/reply-by-email-will-it-work/22

    i'm checking it out right now.

     >
     > the spread of discussion over several channels feels too much:
    mailing
     > lists, github comments, discourse discussions, irc chats.



     >
     > johannes
     >
     > > ...
     > >
     > > -aj
     > >
     > >
     > > Martin Opstad Reistadbakk-4 wrote
     > > > I believe not yet at least, I responed to your post on
     > > > community.plone.org <http://community.plone.org>.
     > > >
     > > >
     > > >
     > > >
     > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Jens W. Klein &lt;
     > >
     > > > jens@
     > >
     > > > &gt;wrote:
     > > >
     > > >> Can I still read/post via gmane?
     > > >>
     > > >> Jens
     > > >>
     > > >>
     > > >> On 2014-05-23 13:01, Martin Opstad Reistadbakk wrote:
     > > >>
     > > >>> Hi all,
     > > >>>
     > > >>> To make our discussions more visible for outsiders and
    newcomers and
     > > >>> more pleasant for ourselves we want to move our discussion
    mailing lists
     > > >>> to http://community.plone.org
     > > >>>
     > > >>> Please create an account and start posing new topics here:
     > > >>>
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     > > >>>
     > > >>> Discourse can be used similar to an mailing list, and you
    can subscribe
     > > >>> to the topics you want. Any questions on how to use
    discourse can be
     > > >>> asked here: http://community.plone.org/category/meta
     > > >>>
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