Thanks Steve, very helpful.
Additional info/questions for the list:

On 12/15/2015 11:19 AM, Steve McMahon wrote:
You should find an event.log file in your client directories. Sometimes
put in a separate log directory.

Yep, found them. I tried both cut/paste and copy/paste of the site.

Log shows that the cut/paste attempt apparently ended after a whole lot of these errors (too many open files):
--------
2015-12-15T08:31:35 INFO Archetypes Error while trying to convert file contents to 'text/plain' in <Field file(file:rw)>.getIndexable() of <ATFile at /copy_of_hawaiicountycdp.info/hilo/bayfront-trails/Public_Meeting_2 _Presentation-Press_Quality.pdf>: [Errno 24] Too many open files: '/tmp/tmpktmYI0'
--------

The copy/paste ended with this error, in the ZMI and detailed in the log:
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Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: No module named collective.recaptcha.settings
--------------

...which I have also gotten trying to import the same site into a different location in the same instance, after exporting it successfully. So it looks like copy/paste does an export/import behind the scenes, while cut/paste does...something else...?

Re the ImportError - the 3.3.5 site is an upgrade from a 3.2.2 site that used collective.recaptcha. In that upgrade process, I found that adding collective.recaptcha to the 3.3.5 buildout caused an error on every page render attempt. It was used on only two forms, not mission critical at all, so I took it back out of the 3.3.5 buildout. The two forms then threw errors rendering, but after I deleted the recaptcha objects from the form folders they worked again. I thought that was the end of it, but apparently there is some kind of collective.recaptcha ghost in the machine, as it is still trying to import a module.
No idea what to do about that, suggestions welcome.

Watching the log or foreground console will give you a pretty good idea
of whether or not the clear/rebuild is reindexing. If your site is not
just large in bulk, but has a lot of content objects, you'll need to
enable subtransactions.

Subtransactions are enabled.
The threshold is set at 10000 (not by me - some kind of default?) - the catalog has 9039 records - so I assume that means it will do the whole catalog in one transaction, unless I lower the threshold?

I will post separately w/new subject line for the rest of this since it leads to what seems to be the core issue (cut/copy & paste the site being an attempt to work around that issue that is not working).

thanks,
John S.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:59 AM, John Schinnerer <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi,

    I think this is the place for install/upgrade issues. If not please
    direct me to the appropriate place.

    Plone 3.3.5 is the platform here, but the reason for the question is
    to facilitate upgrading a 3.3.5 site to 4.x.

    Is it possible to cut/copy and paste a "large" plone site, within a
    given zope instance that has one or more existing plone sites?

    Also, is there a way to verify that "clear and rebuild" and "update"
    of catalog (portal_catalog -> Advanced tab) complete, or not, for a
    "large" site?

    "Large" in this case means a Data.fs of ~5.7GB.

    I am asking because I have started "clear and rebuild" and "update"
    operations multiple times, but after some long time of the browser
    "waiting for domain.tld...," the right pane of the ZMI refreshes
    with a "connection refused."

    I am getting the same result when I try and copy or cut and paste
    the site. In that case it seems clear the operation failed at some
    point, since the site remains in the original location when I
    refresh the ZMI tab (was not moved or copied).

    Does one of the logs track these operations? Or is there any other
    way to find out what is actually happening, especially with the
    catalog operations?

    thanks,
    John S.

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