On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:14 , Alan W. Irwin wrote:

> I left out your other questions because I am confused on those  
> issues as
> well.  However, assuming you get them figured out, I would  
> appreciate it if
> you took some additional time to update the relevant docbook  
> documentation
> to help relieve everybody's confusion on these matters.

I'll take a crack at it if/when I get to an appropriate level of  
understanding.

> I can help you out a bit with this one.  There is an example of how
> "defined" is used in the C version of example 16.  And, FWIW, I  
> think we
> should have adopted a more general API for "defined".  However, I  
> guess
> nobody cares too much about it because of its limitations.  For  
> example, the
> "defined" part of example 16 looks pretty good at normal  
> resolution, but you
> get a real mess at lower resolutions.

Thanks for the pointer.  Just to make this more searchable in the  
archives, use of plshade's "defined" feature is only demonstrated  
when giving x16c the "-exclude" option.  Compare the output of these  
two commands...

x16c -dev xwin -exclude

x16c -dev xwin -exclude -nx 10 -ny 10


> Thus, I don't think there is any
> language interface that currently propagates what C does with  
> "defined",

Actually, the ocaml bindings seem to support this concept.

> and
> I suggest you skip it for Ruby as well.

Too late! :-)  I've already borrowed from the approach taken in the  
ocaml bindings.

Dave


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