On 2016-12-21 11:04-0000 Arjen Markus wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alan W. Irwin [mailto:ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca] [...] >> I have additional questions about terminology. Is MSVC an IDE? (That is >> implied >> by the wikipedia article about it.) Just out of curiosity is the "Microsoft >> C/C++ >> optimizing compiler" the compiler used by that IDE? However, if I recall >> correctly, >> you use the command line and not an IDE. So does that mean you are using >> nmake on the command line? I believe I have often described your tests as >> MSVC >> +ifort, but it appears that is not correct, if MSVC is an IDE that you are >> not actually >> using. >> > Well, MSVC (MicroSoft Visual C++) is the compiler and it is usual to use it > in combination with the MicroSoft Visual Studio IDE, but it is perfectly > possible to use it from the command-line. And that is what I do in the case > of PLplot. One reason is that it is easier to automate things (if you use the > Visual Studio generator - and you have carefully selected the right version - > you get a complex or at least extensive set of projects, each to build a > single component of PLplot). Another is that I like working from the > command-line. It gives me more control :). > > So, the concise description is correct.
Hi Arjen: Thanks for the additional information you gave about your test conditions and also your clarifying explanation above that MSVC is not an IDE but often used in conjunction with one. Which is not consistent with what the wikipedia article <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_C++> says (for example, in their summary box they say MSVC is an IDE), but I suspect they got it wrong this time. One naming convention still has me confused. You reported > C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Composer XE 2015>cl -v > Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 18.00.40629 for x64 There is no mention there of "Visual" so is this some different compiler than MSVC? My working hypothesis to explain this difference in nomenclature is MSVC is actually a suite of products including this compiler, a debugger, and a lot of machinery (which you don't use) to make it all work with the Visual Studio IDE. But I would appreciate your confirmation of that hypothesis. If that hypothesis is correct, it might be better to use the shorthand (and more recognizable) description MSVC to describe your compiler as opposed to "C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 18.00.40629", but I would need to know your MSVC version number in that case. Actually, what I need here is your advice on the best way to designate your C/C++ and Intel Fortran compiler versions in a way that Windows developers will instantly recognize, and I will follow that advice. By the way, it is even more confusing in the free compiler world; "gcc" is the name of the suite of compilers for C, C++, Fortran, etc., but "gcc" is also the name for the C compiler subset of that suite. :-) Alan __________________________ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __________________________ Linux-powered Science __________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Developer Access Program for Intel Xeon Phi Processors Access to Intel Xeon Phi processor-based developer platforms. With one year of Intel Parallel Studio XE. Training and support from Colfax. Order your platform today.http://sdm.link/intel _______________________________________________ Plplot-devel mailing list Plplot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plplot-devel
