Then I don't understand the exchange either. People who use an actual
release (as opposed to the svn head) have a stable release of SU. When
the next release comes out, they get a pre-compiled bundle, ready to
install.

Sorry for being dense -- Matthias






On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Robby Findler wrote:

I think the concern is for code that is being written by people who
aren't working in our SVN repository.

Robby

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Matthias Felleisen<matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:

We routinely update collections in the core code base and most of the time, it suffices to run setup on the new collection or a few others. (Personally
I often update my code base from scratch once a day.)

I think it would be great if we got into this mode for SU, too. -- Matthias





On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Dave Gurnell wrote:

From an app developer's point of view, I think Noel's reasoning is this:

All of PLT is bundled together under one big version number. If you
upgrade the core, you upgrade all the satellite libraries as well. This has
three drawbacks:

- if you want to upgrade to a newer version of PLT for an improvement in one library, you may have to deal with potential backwards- incompatible
changes in other libraries at the same time;

 - compiling all of PLT can be slow;

- other software you have developed may still use older versions of PLT.

PLaneT offers a little more flexibility: to a certain degree you can
choose to upgrade one dependency independently of the rest.

In other words, if Noel makes a change to Schemeunit, and a developer is requiring it from the core, he/she will have to update all of PLT at the same time, which might take a while and make upgrading difficult. If, however, the developer is requiring Schemeunit from PLaneT, they should hopefully be able to just upgrade that one library and leave everything else
as-is.

Cheers,

-- Dave

Noel, I don't understand this response at all. Could you elaborate? In the past we have deprecated planet package when we moved code into the core.
-- Matthias

Dependency management. We've been bitten by changes in the web server
stopping us upgrading PLT to get bug fixes in other areas. Now
SchemeUnit isn't as likely to change as the web server, but why make the dependency if you can avoid it? (This only applies if you aren't
developing core code. If you are, use the core version.)

N.

Why recommend the planet version over the core version?

Robby

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