On Thu, Apr 18, 2002, Cliff L. Biffle wrote:

> I'd go the other direction.  'Plucker', the viewer, is compatible with 2.x+.  
> 'Plucker Advanced' or 'Plucker International' or something along those lines 
> adds all the new bloat^H^H^H^H^Hfeatures. :-)

I can send you a copy of the 0.01 version, it's less than 7k. You
wouldn't be able to do much with it, but it definitely doesn't
contain any bloat (or features for that matter:)

And speaking about the size of the viewer, I sent the following
message to plucker-dev almost two years ago,

----- Forwarded message from Michael Nordstr�m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:40:27 +0200 (MEST)
From: Michael Nordstr�m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The history of Plucker (was: Viewer with zlib support)
To: Plucker Development List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, David A. Desrosiers wrote:

>       When Mike and I got involved in this project with Mark Lillywhite,
>         the viewer was 7k (mid 98? I forget now). Granted, it was using
>         awk, no compression, no images, nothing, but it was still a very
>         good tool at the time.

Well, myself I subscribed to plucker-list right after the release of
0.01 (Oct '98), but I had so many other things to do at that time, so
it was first in May '99 that I joined this project (I had sent a few
patches to Mark before that). 

Anyway, looking in my Plucker archive (I have every release from 0.01):

6860  Oct 15  1998  0.01  (very limited in features)
7004  Dec  3  1998  0.02  (more or less the same as 0.01)
8627  Jul  9  1999  0.03  (now we have support for images)
13999 Oct  2  1999  0.04  (never released, scrollbars and prefs added)
21792 Dec 25  1999  0.5   (lots of features, python parser, compression)
30550 Apr 24  16:08 0.6   (toolbar icons, greyscale support)
42677 May 27  22:49 0.7   (better screen depth support, mailto tags)
43069 Jun 21  22:41 0.8   (beamed databases)
51423 Jul 13  02:40 0.9   (databases in flash, large images)
54324 Jul 14  19:17 0.z.1 (ZLib support)

Compiling without error macros will decrease the size on the last few
versions with another 3-4k.

I created a database for Linux Gazette for all the versions and got 
the following results:

 0.01: 493k
 0.02: 493k
 0.03: 618k (images, but no compression)
 0.04: 619k
  0.5: 165k (DOC compression)
  0.6: 172k
  0.7: 165k
  0.8: 185k
  0.9: 187k
0.z.1: 141k (ZLib compression)

I had to set up a special test version of LG, since the parsers for
0.03 and 0.04 tried to download all web pages on my server although 
I was only using a max depth of 2 ;-)

/Mike

----- End forwarded message -----


Anyway, a long time ago I suggested to create a modularized viewer,
that would consist of a small generic viewer that you could expand
with different modules. However, the current design makes it kind
of difficult to implement such a solution. Maybe one day...

/Mike

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