[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Dennis,
Your comments plus others in the thread finally got me to really go where it helped. I don't need the creator (I'm running xP so should be able to do it if I figure out where to grab what software to install but all I want to do is @#$ Read the books. And I finally got the pdb from Gutenberg I wanted to start with and installed it and it fit and I am reading it! GOOD Many thanks to all for good info! pax Christopher Culp On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send plucker-list mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.plkr.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of plucker-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (Christopher Culp) > 2. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (Christopher Hawks) > 3. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (dmccunney) > 4. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (dmccunney) > 5. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (David A. Desrosiers) > 6. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (Michellyn) > 7. Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 (David A. Desrosiers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:48:41 -0500 > From: "Christopher Culp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Dennis, > > I got the html files from project Gutenberg so they're probably not > converted. > And I currently don't have (?) ability to convert? (Not sure...just > installed plucker. Thurs) When I go to open the html files, it offers now > to open using iSiloX converter...? is this the plucker converter? > > On my computer where I have the palm files there is no programs subdir in > the root. or under the > name. I did install Plucker using quick install and I can open it but the > only doc that's in the library is the userguide. Side note: I presume > that > when I ultimately (God willing) get files in the library I'll be able to > change their category from Undefined to something else? I just tried > changing the user guide from Unfiled to Books (one I defined) but it > didn't > change as far as I can see. I'll play with it a bit. > > I'll go back to the plucker web pages and see about the plucker desktop to > do conversions. > sorry to bug ya. > > Thanks for the help too via interesting questions to sayt he least! > > Christopher culp > > > > > Two problems: > > > > 1) Plucker won't look where you are putting them. It looks in RAM, > > and on the card in /Palm/Launcher, /Palm/Ebooks, and > > /Palm/Programs/Plucker. It doesn't look in /Palm/name/Ebooks. It > > would be nice if Plucker *could* navigate the file system and find > > files elsewhere, but that isn't currently possible. Personally, I put > > everything in /Palm/Programs/Plucker, and have about 3,200 documents > > there. I use Categories for classification (and wish more than 16 > > categories were possible.) > > > > 2) Just to be clear, Plucker doesn't read raw HTML. It reads HTML > > files converted by the Plucker desktop to the format the viewer > > understands. I assume you converted the HTML files? > > > > > Thanks! > > > Christopher Culp > > ______ > > Dennis > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > plucker-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.plkr.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-list > > > > > > End of plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > > ******************************************* > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.plkr.org/pipermail/plucker-list/attachments/20080505/6d5b44f2/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 14:31:26 -0500 > From: Christopher Hawks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: General Plucker discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Christopher Culp said the following on 05/05/2008 11:48 AM: > > Dear Dennis, > > > > I got the html files from project Gutenberg so they're probably not > > converted. > > Chris: > > You can download Plucker versions of the documents from project > Gutenberg. > Plucker is listed among the 'Formats available for downloading' I get them > that > way all the time. Just click on 'Plucker' instead of 'HTML'. > > Chris > > > -- > Christopher R. Hawks > HAWKSoft > --------------------------------------------------------- > Any research done on how to efficiently use computers has been long lost > in the mad rush to upgrade systems to do things that aren't needed by > people who don't understand what they are really supposed to do with them. > -- Graham Reed, in a.s.r. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 18:09:03 -0400 > From: dmccunney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: "General Plucker discussion" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Christopher Culp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Dear Dennis, > > > > I got the html files from project Gutenberg so they're probably not > > converted. > > Nope. They aren't. PG offers plain text and HTML. (And as Chris > YHawks mentions, they offer pre-converted Plucker files, which they > create on the fly when you select that.) > > > And I currently don't have (?) ability to convert? (Not sure...just > > installed plucker. Thurs) When I go to open the html files, it offers > now > > to open using iSiloX converter...? is this the plucker converter? > > No, it isn't. iSilo is a competing product that does things similar > to Plucker. Most folks will use one or the other, but Plucker won't > understand an iSilo file, and vice versa. I have iSiloX Desktop > installed for one purpose: I use it to generate iSilo versions of True > type fonts, which I can then convert on the PDA for use in other > programs. For actually reading HTML on my PDA, I use Plucker. > > > On my computer where I have the palm files there is no programs subdir > in > > the root. or under the name. I did install Plucker using quick install > and I can open it but the > > only doc that's in the library is the userguide. Side note: I presume > that > > when I ultimately (God willing) get files in the library I'll be able to > > change their category from Undefined to something else? I just tried > > changing the user guide from Unfiled to Books (one I defined) but it > didn't > > change as far as I can see. I'll play with it a bit. > > Two more things: > > First, forget about the desktop. Where the files live on it is > irrelevant for what you want to do. What you will be concerned with > is where to place them on the card in your PDA so Plucker can find > them. You have three choices: /Palm/Ebooks, /Palm/Launcher, and > /Palm/Programs/Plucker. I prefer /Palm/Programs/Plucker, but any of > the three will work. I recommend against using /Palm/Launcher because > too many other things also expect stuff to be there, and keeping > straight what belongs to what is a pain. The only thing in > /Palm/Programs/Plucker is Plucker documents... > > Second, if you haven't, make sure you installed syszlib.prc (included > with the Plucker viewer) on your PDA. Zlib lets Plucker view > documents created with the "high-compression" option. It's a shared > library, and must live in RAM. It can't be on a card. The Plucker > viewer itself *can* be run from a card, and you can drop it in > /Palm/Launcher to save RAM. > > What sort of desktop machine are you using, and what OS? > > You'll need the Plucker Desktop installed to do conversions from raw > HTML to Plucker format. The desktop includes the Plucker parser that > actually does the conversions. If you run Windows, I can recommend a > freeware utility you might like to aid the process. > > > I'll go back to the plucker web pages and see about the plucker desktop > to > > do conversions. > > Good plan. > > > sorry to bug ya. > > No apology required. I like helping folks to use Plucker. > > > Thanks for the help too via interesting questions to sayt he least! > > Have to determine where you are now before I can tell you where to go. > :-) > > > Christopher culp > ______ > Dennis > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:49:15 -0400 > From: dmccunney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: "General Plucker discussion" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Christopher Hawks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christopher Culp said the following on 05/05/2008 11:48 AM: > > > > > Dear Dennis, > > > > > > I got the html files from project Gutenberg so they're probably not > > > converted. > > > > Chris: > > > > You can download Plucker versions of the documents from project > Gutenberg. > > Plucker is listed among the 'Formats available for downloading' I get > them that > > way all the time. Just click on 'Plucker' instead of 'HTML'. > > The only issue with that is that the last time I looked, the Plucker > versions created by PG didn't include illustrations on books that had > them. No surprise, given the number of possible options in > resolution (lo-res vs hi-res), color support, and image size. I roll > my own Plucker versions because I want embedded illos in full color. > > If you don't care about illustrations, and just want text, other good > sources include Munseys and Manybooks. Both grab legally available > source text from PG and elsewhere, and convvert it to a number of > electronic formats including Plucker. > > Munseys: http://munseys.com > > Manybooks: http://manybooks.net > > Munseys tends to have old pulp stuff that hasn't been added to PG, and > Manybooks offers an assortment of stuff issued under a Creative > Commons license. > > > Christopher R. Hawks > > HAWKSoft > ______ > Dennis > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:55:16 -0400 (EDT) > From: "David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: General Plucker discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > You can download Plucker versions of the documents from project > > Gutenberg. Plucker is listed among the 'Formats available for > > downloading' I get them that way all the time. Just click on > > 'Plucker' instead of 'HTML'. > > And if you go to the Plucker website on the "samples" page, you'll see > the top 20 Gutenberg ebooks indexed and linked from there as well as > the top 'n' new books posted to Gutenberg: > > http://www.plkr.org/samples > > Whenever they update their feeds with new books/content, our site > reflects the changes accordingly. They give us a ton of traffic, and > we give it right back. :) > > > David A. Desrosiers > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p: 860-367-8456 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:53:18 -0600 > From: "Michellyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: "General Plucker discussion" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I don't know what operating system you use on your PC, but I haven't been > able to get the Plucker converter to work with Vista. I downloaded > Sunrise > XP, and that has worked great to convert all the HTML documents I want to > Plucker. Because of Plucker and Sunrise XP, I've ended up using my Palm > way > more than I ever imagined I could. > > Michelle G. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:32:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: "David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 > To: General Plucker discussion <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > On Mon, 5 May 2008, Michellyn wrote: > > I downloaded Sunrise XP, and that has worked great to convert all > > the HTML documents I want to Plucker. Because of Plucker and > > Sunrise XP, I've ended up using my Palm way more than I ever > > imagined I could. > > Just remember that SunriseXP, being a separate (outside Plucker) > project, does not support all of the features of the stock Plucker > distiller (such as support for tables, owner-id, compression options, > etc). > > IIRC, Robert did some work fairly recently to Plucker desktop to make > it work with Vista, but there were no updates to it after those > commits. > > I'm happy to figure out how to make an automated daily/weekly snapshot > of Plucker Desktop and post it on the website like we do with the > viewer right now, if someone could explain to me how the build system > works on Windows to get that working. > > > David A. Desrosiers > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > p: 860-367-8456 > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > plucker-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.plkr.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-list > > > End of plucker-list Digest, Vol 14, Issue 3 > ******************************************* >
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