I really don't understand why subscribers of this list get their panties
in a bunch. If a question annoys me, I just don't respond. God knows
that I have posted "dumb questions" to lists. I suggest members use
discretion. I suggest Michael think carefully on an issue before
posting. I certainly have seen quality posts by Michael. I have also
heard myself say, Michael again! This list is very useful and if we
start fighting or leave the list, the list becomes useless. As the late
Rodney King said... "Can't we all just get along?"
Michael I value you on this list and hope things are well for you.
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
Operations Manager
Phoenix Internet
On 11/30/2012 11:01 AM, Stephen wrote:
Google can find a wealth of information, but there is no guaruntee
about applicable nature or accuracy. however i think it is a great
place to start and fine tune the questions you need to ask. and for me
that is what i mean about previous research.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, James Mcphee <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I can understand the frustration of being asked easily searchable
questions. There wouldn't be a "Let Me Google That For You" site
if it wasn't common.
I also know that just because google says to do something, doesn't
mean it's the right way. So even if the thing I'm doing is basic,
and google has readily-available answers, I will still ask for
opinions.
Just my 2 cents.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Dazed_75 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good thoughts all. My feeling is that Mike has come a long
way from where he started and explores many things that most
folks would never touch.
It is amazing to me that he does some of the projects he
tackles and still asks so many "simple" questions. I may not
answer as many of those as a I should but there are also
questions he asks that I cannot answer even if I do some
researching. So I do learn from some of his threads if I
follow them through to an answer. And that is what it is all
about.
Oh, and one thing Mike does that I wish more people would do
is to usually post the solution even when he finds it himself
or as a result of an answer that someone gave.
I do sometimes wonder if there are people who object just
because Mike is the most prolific user of this list. Good on
you Mike.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM, James Finstrom
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The point of a LUG is to get people interested in Linux
and build skills. This is why you have install days etc.
I work daily with people who don't want to use Linux but
have to on their servers. Linux is an acquired taste for
some. My wife and kids had to be taught to love it after
my 5th time reinstalling their computer because they hosed
windows.
Google is like common sense. Everyone has access and
should contain a small amount of knowledge in using it.
Fact a good chunk of my day is spent working as a google
proxy for others. People lack common sense and the ability
to type a few words in to google. The flip side of that is
knowing how to read results. Sometimes the first, second
forth page of google is irreverent or is the 1200th person
asking a question and no one has an answer. I consider my
self a professional google user. It is 1/2 my world. I
have recently started burrowing in to python and some
things (yum) are documented by a 3 year old or not at all
so you have to turn to other resources. I am happy to say
even when I ask something I know is reaaaaaaly dumb the
python folks have been pretty awesome to me.
tl;dr Lugs try to attract people, these people likely
know nothing, asking a community like this sometimes
yields higher quality results than searching. You should
be happy they asked rather than moving on, teach them to fish.
tl;dr for tl;dr Be excellent to each other.
James Finstrom
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As much as I hate 'me too' replies, in this case I
think its warranted, so here goes:
Well said, thanks!
Rusty
> -----Original Message-----
> ....
>
> I agree that you are free to block Mike if you wish,
but I disagree
> with anyone publicly stating 'Mike is so dumb that
we should kick him
> out'
> because that express and undeserved and ignorant
judgement and narrows
> the limits of those willing to participate in this list.
>
> I don't block Mike, although I don't always answer.
> And I have the utmost respect for him.
> Mike, please don't leave this list.
> Enrique A. Troconis
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