Here's my solution to this problem. Make it a rule that anyone who posts an off topic post gets a gila monster put down their pants.

On 06/12/2013 12:56 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
honest.... whaat was posted that started this tirade was an accident. I meant to share the company that rejects the sharing of our web activities.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Nathan England <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:06:44 PM Ted Gould wrote:
    Wonderful, and your blog is a great place for that.  I support you
    being
    outspoken about the issues in your private space.  But the PLUG
    list is a
    communal space, and with that comes certain communal norms.  For
    instance: no
    shoes, no shirt, no service.  That establishes norms for certain
    areas that
    contain that banner.  Certainly it restricts your freedom, but it
    is also
    about someone establishing norms in a space to encourage a more
    diverse set of
    participants.

    Ted




    What is ironic is we have destroyed the community of the PLUG. I
    have been on
    this list for over 10 years. Through that time I have come to know
    many people
    whom I consider friends. While the list may have a specific focus,
    since the
    beginning, us friends used this list to communicate all kinds of
    things that
    we cared about and we shared it with eachother through the list as
    a means for
    creating a group discussion rather than just between a few of us.

    Society has changed. In our vast attempt to be open minded of
    everyone else
    and tolerant, almost entirely pushed by the LGBT groups, no one is
    tolerant of
    anything and no one is allowed to say anything for fear of
    offending someone
    else. You know, we have a freedom of speech in this country and
    not every word
    spoken is hateful though it may personally offend *you*.

    Grow up. Put your big boy pants on and stop whining! This isn't
    the third
    grade anymore. I have opinions and a right to share them. You have
    opinions
    and whether I agree with them or not I want to hear them!

    God forbid someone challenge someone. I have a strong foundation
    and I know
    what I believe, but you telling your opinion about something that
    I do not
    agree with does not shake my foundation so much that I get upset
    and I can no
    longer think for my self. I value other peoples opinions,
    otherwise I would
    not share my own.

    When Obama was elected the first round he stated he wanted his
    cabinet to be
    filled with people who did not agree with him. I thought it was  a
    brilliant
    idea! What better than a large group of advisors who will share
    differing
    opinions. Of course, later we found out the advisors were nothing
    more than
    large contributors to his campaigns and he was repaying them for
    their deeds.
    What a loser.

    If we cannot share our opinions then I formally request this list
    become
    moderated so that no one might accidentally offend the weak minded
    on this
    list.

    Nathan
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