At least gmail seems to be delivering them even if it's to the spam folder. Yahoo is just bouncing them. We've had about 25 list subscribers get purged from the system due to excessive email bounces.

Brian Cluff

On 04/21/2014 06:38 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:
That is odd, I am using gmail and all the messages are going to the
folder the filters labelled them as. I haven't had any messages form
PLUG in the spam folder, although I have noticed that some messages from
another list have some messages going to the spam folder.




On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Derek Trotter <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I thought I wasn't having any trouble with messages arriving, but
    then I logged into gmail via the web and checked my spam folder.
    All that was in there were messages from this list and one other.  I
    checked them all and clicked the not spam button.  It said they were
    moved to the inbox.  All were yahoo addresses except one from Hans.
    Strange that all his other messages would make it but Google's spam
    filters would catch one.

    Is there a punishment too severe for spammers?  I think not.

    On 04/18/2014 04:00 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote:
    > I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.

    Apparently, so is gmail... (and maybe for similar or "analogous"
    reasons.)
    I use gmail [since circa late 2005] and I found this message in my
    "Junk mail" (or 'spam') folder, there on gmail.

    I don't keep up with (reading) PLUG-DISCUSS as often as I used to
    ... but any time I want to, if I really do want to read it, then
    (no matter) even if the robots are starting to categorize messages
    like this as "junk" mail -- (a "false positive", IMHO) -- I could
    always go read the messages on the archive, on the server.

    > Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being
    dropped from
    the list, but [...]

    I don't think I've been "dropped from the list" [yet], .. but,
    thanks for the HEADS-UP! :-) !

    Just my 0.02 ... YMMV ...

    PS: Regards to many of my old friends -- (whom I probably have not
    seen / e-mailed, in a long time) --
    ... from
    --
    Mike Schwartz
    Glendale  AZ
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, keith smith
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I have a Yahoo email account and I got this several hours ago.

        Your membership in the mailing list PLUG-discuss has been
        disabled due
        to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
        12-Apr-2014.  You will not get any more messages from this
        list until
        you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more
        reminders like
        this before your membership in the list is deleted.

        I guess Yahoo is treating PLUG as spam.

        The newsletter folks like iContact are having to deal with
        Yahoo, Gmail, HotMail..... etc bouncing emails if the
        recipient does not open a certain number of emails they signed
        up to get. Must be a profit thing.

        I do not read every plug post so maybe that is what happened
        to me.
        ------------------------
        Keith Smith
        On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:56 PM, Brian Cluff
        <[email protected]> wrote:
        Thanks to some changes at yahoo, people that were subscribed
        to the plug
        mailing lists and probably wanted to continue to receive PLUG
        email are
        dropping off the list like flies due to their messages from
        the list
        being rejected.

        Obviously this message won't reach the people who are being
        dropped from
        the list, but if anyone runs into someone that says that
        haven't been
        getting new emails, you can tell them that they need to switch
        providers
        because yahoo and any other domain that is hosted by yahoo
        will no
        longer accept plug emails.

        I'll try to archive the bounce notifications and if yahoo
        changes their
        policy, I'll manually resubscribe anyone that gets dropped.
        Until then
        we have to assume that this change is permanent.

        Brian Cluff
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