bmike1@c521 ~ $ ls -l ~ total 64 drwxr-xr-x 2 bmike1 bmike1 4096 Dec 18 20:15 Desktop --etc--
in the above ls output what do the third and fourt fields represent? . . . oh yeah. 'owner' and 'group'! is it in that order? :-)~MIKE~(-:
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