I agree here, it is an important factor, but really only to us linux
folk. Windoze people remain blissfully ignorant mostly except when
dealing with the horrible bioses these days built for uefi. I think diy
mobo's will remain safe, but laptops are a wildcard when dealing with
non-business class devices. Dell seems good about keeping legacy boot
options at least, and keeping some sense of linux friendliness in
general (they do have a desktop linux mailing list people respond on).
Getting that asus laptop that would "only" do uefi was just painful as I
had ass-u-me'd that it *could* be switched to legacy boot, and delayed
my usability significantly since forcing me to learn some new method
with questionable value. UEFI just seems like another half-way good
idea turned terrible by letting microsoft steer and dictate its
implementation, as they seemed the only one that cared, and obviously
only about the windoze implementation.
I'm all for learning something new, but not when the only value is
keeping the relevance of windoze on my hardware, which is entirely
undesirable.
-mb
On 04/19/2016 10:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 10:02:03 -0700
Wayne D <[email protected]> wrote:
Some day UEFI might be good, but right now you hear too much about
people bricking their mobos via interaction with their OS and the
UEFI storage area, or Linux people doing rm -rf only to find out
that included the mounted UEFI variable area.
And then there's the whole Secure Boot fiasco. No problem if you
use a major Linux that's purchased a key from Microsoft, but all
bets are off if you compile your own kernel.
You really know how to pee on a parade... LOL Ya, I'm cringing a
little over this one.
If mobo makers want to force UEFI, or worse, Secure Boot on us, well,
I guess that's their right. But this is such an important thing, I
think that ability to boot MBR and ability to turn off Secure Boot
should be a very prominent spec, right along with number of memory
slots and enumeration of extension slots.
The fact that you have to find these things out after having the
product shipped to you, and then play the RMA game or just eat
something you don't want, is inexcusable.
You should contact the manufacturer, and ask it point blank:
1) Can you boot to a genuine MBR, and how?
2) Can you turn off Secure Boot, and how?
SteveT
Steve Litt
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http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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