On 2016-12-13 15:45, Vara La Fey wrote:
Yes, it's heartbreaking, but just as the prices of ballpoint pens,
calculators and pcs decreased as the items became more common and
easily created, the price of labor decreases as laborers become more
common and easily located.

It's supply and demand. You can't change it by denial or by
regulation. Do you want to build a Berlin Wall to keep American
enterprise imprisoned here? Will you advocate machine-gunning them in
the back as they desperately try to escape to freer countries with
less spoiled workers?

Of course not. Then don't be tempted by the protectionist path which
has that as its logical end. Give regulators an inch, they take a
mile.

1)  When American jobs and manufacturing go overseas, it's because
we"re finished with it and are moving on to something new that the
rest of the world will also play catchup with - someday. Maybe some of
you will hitch your wagon to that new thing. Or invent it.


YES!!! Drop your ones and zeros Here is the next big thing. http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sierra-tree-mortality-20161129-story.html

And when we grow tired of that we can import cheep labor to cut down our dead trees and move onto something else.



2)  Given the unthinkably low quality of Indian customer service and -
last I knew - of I/T personnel, don't be surprised if there's a
backlash, and competent Westerners get rehired in what I'll call an
"Indian Summer". We might not yet BE finished with I/T engineering....


 - Vara
- www.facebook.com/vara.lafey [4]
On Dec 12, 2016 11:09 PM, "Steve Litt" <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 18:06:28 -0700
Michael Butash <[email protected]> wrote:

Long since tuned this thread out as far too political to care and
long since said my piece, but found this amusing to share to those
still following:



http://www.computerworld.com/article/3149535/it-outsourcing/disney-it-workers-in-lawsuit-claim-discrimination-against-americans.html
[1]

Now everyone run out and see Star Wars (or any other drivel they
release) this Christmas to pay for Disney's slave H1B labor!  They
need every last cent of profit for such a hurting organization.

Here's something even more amusing: I had a friend who got the ax in
Disney's late 2014 bloodbath. He died less than a year later. I'm
not
going to explain it on this mailing list, but I'm pretty sure
Disney's
actions substantially hastened his death. He was a spectacular
developer, system architect, and manager.

Disney will never get another cent of my money.

SteveT

Steve Litt
December 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 [2]
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