another area of interest could be database management, especially on older 
oracle based database systems (like 11g). there is a shortage of people there 
as well.

-eric
from the central office of the technomage Guild, Vital Statistics management.

On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:44 AM, David Schwartz wrote:

> I don’t mind talking with you, but I think you’re being given some rather 
> biased advice by someone who probably has no experience in the field.
> 
> Programmers as a whole tend to be introverts and rather anti-social. At least 
> us older folks fit that mold. The younger ones are a bit more sociable.
> 
> With your background, you don’t need a CS degree. Just get some specialized 
> training in some language and platform that’s hot right now that you can get 
> lost working on for a while, and you’ll be set.
> 
> Just try to avoid the web arena. I work in Delphi, which is Pascal. I’m left 
> alone to work by myself most of the time. In fact, I’m working at a place 
> righ tnow where my boss is in Baltimore and I’m in Phoenix. Nobody here in 
> Phoenix deals with me in the office. It’s rather strange. I don’t know why 
> they hired me to work out of this office, but that’s what they wanted.
> 
> Web developer … no. No, no, no! Too many short-turn high-tension projects 
> with constantly conflicting requirements. And it often involves the 
> programmer working closely with a graphic artist (unless you do both).
> 
> 
> Consider this: anything that gets you maintaining legacy code would probably 
> be a good position for you. COBOL, FORTRAN, Delphi/Pascal, MUMPS / Caché
> 
> These are skill sets that employers need to fill on a regular basis, and 
> they’re getting harder and harder to find even minimally qualified people. I 
> worked at a place a few years ago and they hired kids out of college with 
> Liberal Arts degrees and put them into a 12-month training program teaching 
> them MUMPS. Why? Because there’s no way to learn it otherwise. They couldn’t 
> find anybody to hire!
> 
> You might wonder, who the heck is using MUMPS today? Believe it or not, the 
> entire US Dept. of Veterans Affairs is powered by MUMPS / Caché on the 
> back-end, and Delphi on the front-end! The place I’m at now uses Caché, in 
> fact. It’s an old legacy healthcare data system.
> 
> (MUMPS was originally developed to run on a Borrough’s mainframe computer 
> that was built to support the needs of hospitals. That was the 1970’s. Here 
> we are nearly 50 years later, and the VA is probably the biggest MUMPS (and 
> Delphi) user in the world. It ain’t going away any time soon.)
> 
> You might or might not be a good fit for a maintenance role, but if you are, 
> learn one of these older languages and it could end up being a really good 
> gig for you.
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:09 PM, trent shipley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear plug-discuss,
>> 
>> I currently work as a telephone customer service representative. There are 
>> no sales, but I still hate it, it pays poorly, and I'm bad at it.
>> 
>> I have three disabilities, I'm bipolar (well treated with medication), 
>> autistic (high functioning), and I have attention deficit disorder. (Also, 
>> I'm 50, which is effectively another disability.) Three disabilities is 
>> enough to qualify for Vocational Rehabilitation services from the State.
>> 
>> I like programming. I'd like to be in IT, I think. I had a couple years of 
>> experience back between 2000 and 2002, mostly writing SQL queries in Oracle. 
>> I have a BA with majors in history (3.5 GPA) and math (2.25 GPA), an MA in 
>> anthropology, and unsuccessful attempt at a PhD in anthropology, an MS in 
>> information management, and a community college Certificate of Completion in 
>> computer programming (CIS department, not CS).
>> 
>> There are two major barriers to my getting a job as a programmer. First, it 
>> seems to involve way too much interaction with people for an autistic 
>> person. Second, it requires a four year degree and internships. Voc Rehab 
>> doesn't want to pay for it, and I can't pay for it myself.
>> 
>> So the option of web developer came up. The Labor Department's web site said 
>> you could qualify to enter work as a web developer with a post-high school 
>> certificate. Unfortunately, I suspect that being a web developer requires 
>> even more people contact than being a programmer. 
>> 
>> Nevertheless, my assignment for the week is to talk to two web developers. 
>> I'd appreciate any contacts list members could provide that would be willing 
>> to provide a 20 minute interview about their work, either web developers or 
>> programmers with less than a BS.
>> 
>> Regards and thanks,
>> 
>> Trent Shipley
>> [email protected] (junk e-mail account)
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