When it comes to video editing the more RAM the better. 

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> On Nov 30, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the great input - especially the refurbished Mac stores!
> 
> A more technical question - am I correct is assuming she needs 16 GB of RAM 
> and a quad core i7 processor to edit 60 minutes of video footage? Or, is this 
> over kill?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Stephen Partington <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> The 15-inch MBP's have Radeon 555 or 560 graphics with either 2 or 4GB. and 
>> the iMac Pro comes with Radeon Vega Pro based graphics and all the 
>> horsepower (and then some) the Mac Pro came with. My guess they will use 
>> that as the basis for either replacing the Mac Pro or setting its place.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 7:12 AM, Aaron Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The new mac pro isn’t really pro any more. If she needs a gpu, they are 
>>> phasing them out right now. So video editing and rendering is all processor 
>>> based now. 
>>> 
>>> Citation : my work just bought me a macbook pro three days ago and it has 
>>> no gpu and no pro had a gpu as an available option. 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Stephen Partington <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Getting a machine with a Spinning Disk is an easy upgrade to SSD for less 
>>>> than the apple price difference.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:49 PM, David Schwartz 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I’ve been using Macs regularly since I got a 27” iMac back in 2006.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve had a few Mac Minis, and both them and the old white iMacs could be 
>>>>> opened up (with a little effort) and upgraded.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Newer stuff is much harder to crack open, although I’m told MBPs can be 
>>>>> upgraded without much trouble by removing their bottom (with the right 
>>>>> screwdriver).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personally, I like to buy equipment that’s slightly behind the leading 
>>>>> edge, preferably refurbished, or “nearly new”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All MBPs seem tocome now with: quad-core i7, 16GB RAM, and SSDs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The variations are: CPU speed, SSD size, and GPU.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here’s a tip: you’re going to find the best deals on Apple stuff between 
>>>>> Christmas and around the 5th or so of January on eBay.
>>>>> 
>>>>> College kids who’ve gotten something the previous semester on a student 
>>>>> discount suddenly have to leave school, or they need to sell their 
>>>>> machine to help pay for school, or something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Look for a machine with a “bottom-end” (today) CPU (eg., 2.6GHz i7), 1TB 
>>>>> SSD, and a “bottom-end” GPU, with AppleCare.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The MSRP on MBPs like this online or at the Apple Store will be around 
>>>>> $3400. If you’re patient, it’s extremly likely you’ll be able to find one 
>>>>> on eBay during this time for $2k give or take a couple hundred, because 
>>>>> these folks just want to pay off the balance they owe after a semester of 
>>>>> use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can also keep your eye on the Apple Refurbished store online.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac
>>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, get a machine that was released 12-18 months ago. You get a 
>>>>> full warranty, you can buy AppleCare, and it’s 15-25% off the original 
>>>>> price.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just because someone doesn’t think they need a laptop for its portability 
>>>>> is no reason to avoid them. I keep my 15” MBP sitting on my desk closed 
>>>>> most of the time. I have it connected to a 55” 4k monitor, and I use an 
>>>>> Apple keyboard, Apple trackpad, and a Logitech USB mouse with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even if money were no object, I’d be hardpressed to think of a better 
>>>>> setup. Maybe a Mac Pro. But I like being able to unplug my MBP and take 
>>>>> it with me any time I might want it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW, regarding Mac hardware, the biggest two factors in price when it 
>>>>> comes to their machines is: SSD size and CPU speed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the refurb store, 13” MBPs start at $829 with a spinning HD, and those 
>>>>> with SSDs start at $1100. The top-of-the-line 15” is $3569. So there’s a 
>>>>> model for almost any budget!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -David Schwartz
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is time to upgrade my daughter's 2009 Macbook Pro. She does not need 
>>>>>> the portability of a laptop as she uses her iPad for that. He home use 
>>>>>> is not that demanding, except that she loves to edit her diving and 
>>>>>> vacation movies. She could use a Mac mini, as she has a 23" monitor, 
>>>>>> apple keyboard, and apple mouse. However, I am not sure there is enough 
>>>>>> RAM and horsepower in a Mac mini, so I have been looking at iMacs as 
>>>>>> well. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My assumptions are she needs at least 16 GB of RAM and a quad core i7 
>>>>>> for serious video editing (around an hour of 1080p 60 Hz. video when 
>>>>>> rendered). Which puts us up around $1400+. Are my assumptions correct, 
>>>>>> or off base? What should we be looking at?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She was a Linux user when she was younger, but then they grow up, go to 
>>>>>> college, get a job, get married, and think they know everything....;) 
>>>>>> (she ditched Linux in college)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
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