For me Ubuntu keep breaking my audio output after just about every kernel 
upgrade. Moved back to Antergos. 

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> On Mar 4, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Stephen Partington <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Interesting on both issues. I am assuming you use UEFI and secureboot? 
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 9:19 PM Michael Butash <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The ubuntu issue making me switch with vitriol is somewhat different.  I 
>> simply can't switch to another DE now under ubuntu, and I hate what ubuntu 
>> did to gnome3.  Any other DE but ubuntu's simply crashes and dumps me back 
>> to login.  No idea why, and oddly I can't find much about it from others.  
>> It was merely impetus to evacuate ubuntu further, but like crack I can't 
>> seem to break free.
>> 
>> I ran 16.04 before on my xps15.  Old kernels worked ok with bumblebee, but 
>> sucked at everything else, including my dell thunderbolt/usb3 dock.  I'd get 
>> random network timeouts, the usb bus would just sorta die randomly.  Lovely 
>> feature, really.
>> 
>> Upgrading it fixed TB3, but fubar'd bumblebee/gpu interaction, and powertop 
>> just sorta said I was causing planetary doom with consumption all the time.  
>> It worked, but used power like crazy.  I'd be lucky to get an hour of batter 
>> life, mostly due to the stupid intel vs. nvidia vs. bumblebee issues on it.  
>> Stable network and function vs. heat - I'll take it.  I was hoping moving to 
>> arch they might have fixed some of this stupidity ubuntu could obviously 
>> never figure out.
>> 
>> Why do I hate 18.04?  Other than above gpu issues, I upgrade to find my 
>> right click on the touchpad not working, a distinct lack of a minimize 
>> button on my windows, and various things that simply didn't work out of box 
>> I needed to find workarounds for.  Upgrading out of sheer morbid curiosity 
>> to 18.10 didn't fix anything, and in fact made most worse.  I just hate 
>> ubuntu now, and would really like to never deal with it again.
>> 
>> I need to make a decent arch linux vm image I can clone and reuse, as ubuntu 
>> is even more annoying with failed upgrades as a server.  I really hate 
>> having to rebuild everything every few years, but it does keep me in 
>> practice.
>> 
>> -mb
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 8:00 PM Stephen Partington <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> To follow up Mike's Conversation earlier about arch on a laptop I am 
>>> actually curious about the issue you had.
>>> 
>>> I have had really good success with arch on laptops lately. And with the 
>>> release of Ubuntu 18.04 Ubuntu has been really amenable. 
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