OK.... well, I ran stress and gearsglx and the computer ran fine for
about 5 minutes and then it froze. so this means it is the hardware?
so I guess.... is it the power supply? what else could it be? how can
I verify or else is it a shot in the dark?

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> thanks for shaaring your experiances with me!
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > That is about how my laptop was acting using the i915 driver vs. the intel 
> > kernel mode driver...  Maybe make sure you're not using that, by default 
> > you shouldn't. I ended up with it trying to make prime gpu switching work.
> >
> > It could be gpu related still, most browsers use hardware acceleration that 
> > could be hitting it.
> >
> > Try running glx-gears for a while in full-screen to see how it acts if it 
> > dies when heating up.
> >
> > I also had an older system that was locking up seemingly whenever I'd hit 
> > the graphics.  Turns out the gpu fan went bad, with ambient case fans 
> > keeping it cool enough off the heatsink, but watching a movie or something 
> > that hit the gpu, it would crash.  Tearing it open it was then obvious the 
> > fan wasn't working.  Of course I couldn't find a fan that fit the stupid 
> > thing, so I ended up buying a new gpu for it, all was well.
> >
> > Only ever had one PSU that got wonky on me to crash intermittently in some 
> > 25 years of building pc's, but it happens...
> >
> > Also, boot up and in grub run memtestx86 on it, bad memory sectors can 
> > cause grief too with intermittent locks, usually the more ram you invoke, 
> > you'll hit the bad spot.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> you know.... it seems that the first time of the day I start it it
> >> runs a few minutes and then freezes. but upon subsequent restarts
> >> everything is good.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have ssh installed on my system but to ssh into another system you
> >> > need ssh-server installed on your computer but I can't find it. I
> >> > guess I'm wrong. What else do you need installed?
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:03 PM Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I think my issue might also be grafix related because when it first
> >> > > started doing this the dark areas on my desktop picture would turn
> >> > > blue when it froze. I do have another system. Could you walk me
> >> > > through solving the problem?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:11 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It really could be about anything, hardware or software.  Unplug 
> >> > > > everything unnecessary, even usb things, and just see if it locks up 
> >> > > > then.  I've had psu's do this, video cards, ram, even usb devices 
> >> > > > cause weird hardware-ish problems.  Check dmesg and /var/log as well 
> >> > > > for errors/events, could indicate a flaky device.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also software - upgrading ram recently, I also updated my system 
> >> > > > since I had to reboot anyways, and my pc began locking up every 2 
> >> > > > days.  I thought the new ram perhaps was bad, but memtest looked ok. 
> >> > > >  It took some digging, but guess I picked up a bug in using an old 
> >> > > > intel graphics driver inadvertently, removed that driver, and I've 
> >> > > > had 70 days of uptime since.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I had to get a bit creative to diag this, including sshing into it 
> >> > > > from another system when it did lock up.  Turns out it was graphics 
> >> > > > related, just the display froze, but the system worked otherwise 
> >> > > > headless.  This led me to investigate graphics as a source of the 
> >> > > > lockups to fix at a driver level.  If you have another system 
> >> > > > available, I'd suggest that.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -mb
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 6:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss 
> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> sometimes my computer freezes. is iut the power supply?
> >> > > >>
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