I don't get it, Bob.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if you 
> ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller 
> sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you might 
> like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
>>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>>> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
>>> have!
>>>         *-usb:0
>>>            *-usbhost
>>>                 bus info: usb@1
>>>                 logical name: usb1
>>>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>               *-usb
>>>                    bus info: usb@1:1
>>>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>         *-usb:1
>>>            *-usbhost
>>>                 bus info: usb@2
>>>                 logical name: usb2
>>>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>               *-usb
>>>                    bus info: usb@2:1
>>>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>                  *-usb:0
>>>                       bus info: usb@2:1.4
>>>                       capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>>>                       configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>>>                  *-usb:1
>>>                       bus info: usb@2:1.7
>>>                       capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>                     *-usb:0
>>>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
>>>                          capabilities: usb-1.10
>>>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>>                     *-usb:1
>>>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
>>>                          capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>>                     *-usb:2
>>>                          bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
>>>                          capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>>>                          configuration: driver=usb-storage
>>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
>>> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
>>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
>>> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
>>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
>>> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the enclosure
>>> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
>>> >
>>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
>>> > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't bottle
>>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
>>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>>> > instantly.  Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds.  Login
>>> > times are virtually instant.  When you first get one, you will tell your
>>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
>>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen in
>>> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
>>> >
>>> > Brian Cluff
>>> >
>>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of use.
>>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about doing
>>> > > with the NUC?
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place for
>>> > >> at least 1 NVMe.  Then I would recommend that you get at least one
>>> > >> NVMe.  It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your OS
>>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster than
>>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be
>>> > >> worth every cent to get it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now.  You can get a
>>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> BTW  What's the price range you are looking at spending?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Brian Cluff
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
>>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein the
>>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old machine
>>> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I frankenstein?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before..... I'm
>>> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
>>> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a chassis 
>>> > >>>> and
>>> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an animal
>>> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what they
>>> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows machine in 
>>> > >>>> the sales?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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