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> On Nov 1, 2020, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On the developer side, it gets rid of a lot of the old cruft from the 20+ > years of development and compatibility that's required of such an old > project. From what I can tell, the concept of what's going on underneath the > covers is also much simpler. > > On the user end, it solves some long-standing issues that are basically > impossible to fix due to the architecture of X11. A couple few the top of my > head is 1. Only the focused application and authorized accessibility tools > can grab keyboard input (anything could grab Keyboard input in X11); 2. > Tear-free rendering with built-in double/tripple buffering; 3. Better > security around who/what can connect to the server (i.e., other users cannot > open a window in your session without explicit authorization, not even root). > > From what I can tell, Wayland also uses less memory than Xorg, though that > doesn't matter much with the many GB machines we have today. > > Unless modified by the distribution (i.e. Ubuntu), Wayland has been the > default for a GNOME environment for at least a couple years now. I personally > haven't had a single issue that would be attributed to Wayland. I'm even able > to play games from GOG/Steam, both native and via Proton just fine under > wayland. > >> On Sun, 2020-11-01 at 22:40 -0700, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Why are people pushing Wayland? X works. Why should anyone use Wayland? >> What does it do that X doesn't do? >> >> >> >> On 11/1/20 7:20 PM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Since my last (arch) system update, I can't seem to find any screenshot >> tools that work anymore in kde. Wondering if anyone has any recommendations >> what works for them lately >> >> I've used spectacle from kde for like a decade now as one of my favorite >> tools, and just as of a few months ago, it's gone to hell for me, and just >> crashes if I try to take a screenshot of a selected area. Trying shutter >> recently from gnome, it sort of works at times, other times tends to crash >> when trying to take a screenshot of a selected area as well. I've tried >> some others I've already forgotten the names of a while back, nothing seems >> to work anymore. >> >> I somewhat blame stupid wayland shenanigans in change, I'm not even using >> wayland, but all the major kde news is about wayland, that seems to just be >> bringing the whole thing down around their ankles. Whatever kde is doing >> lately is just bringing it back 10 years in stability. >> >> It's so hard to find good software these days. >> >> -mb >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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