Am 12. Oct, 2021 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair via PLUG-discuss so:

moin moin,

Some things to note:
The NVMe drive in the Acer will significantly improve startup and disk access, 
it's about 4-5 times faster than an SSD.

It is pretty quick.

The extra RAM in the Samsung, as well as the more capable i7 CPU, will make the general 
"feel" of the machine smoother and faster while in use.  The Samsung with the 
8th gen i7 is not a good choice.

Ideally one would add an NVMe to the Samsung 12G ($120 gets you a Samsung 1TB 
NVMe in an 80mm M.2 form factor), but lacking that (I do not think the Samsung 
Ion, guessing that's the machine, has NVMe M.2 available)

All else being equal, I'd probably opt for the Samsung 12G, or the Acer if 
startup time is more important than working with larger art images.  Note that 
8G RAM (including O/S) limits drawings to about 8K resolution, max, at high 
color depth, and while that's good for screen, it might not do for anything 
intended to be seen on paper or canvas.

I think I'm going with the Acer as the Samsung 12G doesn't have USB C.

One other thing, It might be worth taking a look at the Wacom Cintiq panels if 
your wife is interested in high quality digital art.  It's a very good drawing 
tablet under a high quality (USB connected) screen that can attach to just 
about any laptop or desktop.

If they really get into it, then we can consider dedicated drawing
hardware. Currently it's an exploratory toy, but it's something they can
do together.

A bit pricey (16" is ~550; Wacom One 13" is ~400), but hard to beat for someone 
with significant skill or talent who is transitioning from Analog to the digital world.

I'll look at it if we end up going that direction, thanks!

ciao,

der.hans

On 2021-10-11 10:06 PM, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote:
moin moin,

I picked up an Acer 2 in 1 with touchpad for kid. We really needed to
finally replace the laptop that had been gravity tested a few times at the
beginning of the pandemic.

First thing kidling wanted was to install Krita ( much disappointment that
it wasn't on there by default ). Many hours have now been spent
discovering how to use a stylus.

My wife is an analog artist, but likes what she's been seeing, so now I
need two devices that can use stylii.

I had picked up the Acer from Woot and they immediately ran some Samsungs
for less money. The Acer requires a little bit of a bios dance to get
running with debian ( and a non-free ethernet driver ), but has otherwise
been great and much better than the dell we're replacing.

A similarly priced Samsung is similar for features, but I don't really
compare hardware specs anymore since I don't often buy hardware.

Acer:
* 10th Gen Intel Core i5-1035G4
* 8GB LPDDR4
* 256GB NVMe

Samsung:
* 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8565U
* 16GB
* 512GB SSD

There's also a Samsung for $200 less

10th Generation Quad-Core i7-10510U 12GB DDR4 SDRAM
512GB SSD
no USB C :(

I like the idea of more RAM, but the family doesn't really need that. They
don't run containers and databases and test deployments on laptops. Seems
a waste to me :).

They need pretty decent hardware ( we should have far less drop-testing as
that lesson has been learned ), with a decent touchscreen that will work
for a while. They do need computers they draw on rather than tablets they
compute on. They will be running debian ( or derivative if we must ).

Links:

https://computers.woot.com/offers/acer-spin-5-convertible-laptop-3?ref=w_cnt_wp_3_6

https://computers.woot.com/offers/samsung-notebook-9-pro13-3-i7-2-in-1z?ref=w_cnt_wp_5_8

https://computers.woot.com/offers/samsung-galaxy-book-flip-fold-laptop?ref=w_cnt_wp_5_3

Also, an opportunity to podcast as root:

https://computers.woot.com/offers/sudotack-usb-streaming-podcast-pc-microphone-1?ref=w_cnt_wp_3_1

ciao,

der.hans



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