Thank you Brian."Just because you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean
that the circus has left town."George Carlin
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1Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:11:32 -0700From: Jim <[email protected]>To:
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<[email protected]>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"Careful what you ask for. :-)On 3/18/22 08:38,
Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:> honestly... I was just wondering what gas was
costing in AZ. I didn't > want a political debate because most likely we are
set in our beliefs. > I would love to get together for drinks but can't make it
as I live > far from phoenix.>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 11:24 AM greg zegan
via PLUG-discuss > <[email protected]> wrote:>> And there it
is.> Nice.> Everything I mentioned comes from Liberal Arts, not MAGA.>
Jimmy Dore is Liberal Progressive.>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022,
06:58:56 AM MST, Thomas Cameron via> PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:>>> Sincerely - fuck off with the
bullshit MAGA hat wearing politics.> Don't email me directly again.>>
On 3/17/2022 10:23 PM, JD Austin wrote:> Show them you get your news from
only one side without telling> them... (I couldn't resist):>
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart> Looks like you're
living in an echo chamber of mostly one bias> which is just opposite of
Greg's.>> *
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/> * The convenience.org
<http://convenience.org> link seems to be> a blog of some sort for the
NACS magazine. It seems mostly> balanced on bias from what I can tell.>
The reason "Donald Trump was a relative success story, with>
prices climbing a mere 6 cents during his time in office> ($2.33 on
Jan. 23, 2017; $2.39 on Jan. 25, 2021)." is because> he opened domestic
oil production to offset when foreign> sources reduce the oil supply
for our refineries. Biden shut> it down again.>> It doesn't take a
huge stretch of logic to understand that> shutting down domestic crude oil
in place and pipelines in> development adversely affected the price of
fuelin America.> When Biden shut down domestic oil and pipelines to get oil
from> closer sources we lost all the control he had over the topic since>
we rely on foreign sources which might not really be so friendly> to
America otherwise.I agree that it's not all Biden's fault...> our house and
senate made a mess of this country playing politics> and I don't have a ton
of faith in their leadership. Only 2 years> until it gets really ugly
again.>> JD>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:05 PM Thomas Cameron via
PLUG-discuss> <[email protected]> wrote:>> Tell me
you're an idiot without telling me you're an idiot.>>
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/dont-blame-biden-for-gas-prices.html>
https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices>
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/>
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/us/politics/fact-check-republicans-biden-gas.html>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/bogus-gop-claim-that-biden-is-responsible-higher-gasoline-prices/>>
On 3/17/22 17:12, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:>> Lets go
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2Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:12:43 -0700From: Jim <[email protected]>To:
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charset=UTF-8; format=flowedSome say you can save on gas by riding a bicycle.
You can also ride a horse and taunt people at the gas station like this
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3Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 16:20:19 -0700From: Jim <[email protected]>To: Thomas
Cameron via PLUG-discuss <[email protected]>Subject: Re: ot - gas
priceMessage-ID: <[email protected]>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"After the good manners and courtesy
shown in your reply, I had to make a reply of my own. It's true that on day 1
of the Biden administration Biden stopped work on the Keystone pipeline and
stopped most drilling on government land, and imposed stricter regulations on
the rest. If he hadn't done this, gas would be cheaper. Besides, there is
more harm done to the environment when oil comes from the middle east. Ships
have to burn more oil to bring it here. Also pipelines are a more efficient
way to move oil. So Biden did have a role to play in the current price of
gas.Have a nice day.On 3/18/22 06:58, Thomas Cameron via PLUG-discuss wrote:>>
Sincerely - fuck off with the bullshit MAGA hat wearing politics. > Don't email
me directly again.>> On 3/17/2022 10:23 PM, JD Austin wrote:>> Show them you
get your news from only one side without telling >> them... (I couldn't
resist):>> https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart>> Looks like
you're living in an echo chamber of mostly one bias which >> is just opposite
of Greg's.>>>> *
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias>> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/>> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/>> *
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/>> * The convenience.org
<http://convenience.org> link seems to be a>> blog of some sort for the
NACS magazine. It seems mostly balanced>> on bias from what I can tell.>>
The reason "Donald Trump was a relative success story, with>> prices
climbing a mere 6 cents during his time in office ($2.33>> on Jan. 23,
2017; $2.39 on Jan. 25, 2021)." is because he opened>> domestic oil
production to offset when foreign sources reduce the>> oil supply for our
refineries. Biden shut it down again.>>>> It doesn't take a huge stretch of
logic to understand that shutting >> down domestic crude oil in place and
pipelines in development >> adversely affected the price of fuelin America.>>
When Biden shut down domestic oil and pipelines to get oil from >> closer
sources we lost all the control he had over the topic since we >> rely on
foreign sources which might not really be so friendly to >> America otherwise.I
agree that it's not all Biden's fault... our >> house and senate made a mess of
this country playing politics and I >> don't have a ton of faith in their
leadership. Only 2 years until it >> gets really ugly again.>>>> JD>>>> On
Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:05 PM Thomas Cameron via PLUG-discuss >>
<[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Tell me you're an idiot
without telling me you're an idiot.>>>>
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/dont-blame-biden-for-gas-prices.html>>
https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices>>
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/us/politics/fact-check-republicans-biden-gas.html>>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/bogus-gop-claim-that-biden-is-responsible-higher-gasoline-prices/>>>>
On 3/17/22 17:12, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:>>> Lets go
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7Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:28:04 -0700From: Brian Cluff <[email protected]>To:
Main PLUG discussion list <[email protected]>Subject: PLUG and
PoliticsMessage-ID:
<[email protected]>Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=UTF-8; format=flowedThis is a place for discussing Linux and subjects
surrounding Linux. This is not the proper place for general political
discussions.No matter where you fall politically, you are going to offend
around 1/2 the people on this mailing list.Please take the Political
discussions some place else where they are more appropriate.Brian CluffPhoenix
Linux Users Group------------------------------Message: 8Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022
19:19:35 -0700From: Ed <[email protected]>To: Main PLUG discussion list
<[email protected]>Subject: Re: PLUG and PoliticsMessage-ID:
<CAO2XAM4qHELNCuT6qFrKHXECMK+mG-BUbAjM=27f-2e1qrf...@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="UTF-8"+1On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 6:36 PM Brian Cluff via
PLUG-discuss<[email protected]> wrote:>> This is a place for
discussing Linux and subjects surrounding Linux.> This is not the proper place
for general political discussions.> No matter where you fall politically, you
are going to offend around 1/2> the people on this mailing list.>> Please take
the Political discussions some place else where they are> more appropriate.>>
Brian Cluff> Phoenix Linux Users Group>>
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9Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 19:29:55 -0700From: Ed <[email protected]>To: Main PLUG
discussion list <[email protected]>Subject: Re: ot - gas
priceMessage-ID:
<CAO2XAM7=2r7MwK1hnV=fqbonqvvdkhf1btvxe6jq3vm1sxg...@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="UTF-8"Michael, AAA does a good job of tracking gas
prices -https://gasprices.aaa.com/On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:20 PM Jim via
PLUG-discuss<[email protected]> wrote:>> After the good manners
and courtesy shown in your reply, I had to make a reply of my own. It's true
that on day 1 of the Biden administration Biden stopped work on the Keystone
pipeline and stopped most drilling on government land, and imposed stricter
regulations on the rest. If he hadn't done this, gas would be cheaper.
Besides, there is more harm done to the environment when oil comes from the
middle east. Ships have to burn more oil to bring it here. Also pipelines are
a more efficient way to move oil. So Biden did have a role to play in the
current price of gas.>>> Have a nice day.>> On 3/18/22 06:58, Thomas Cameron
via PLUG-discuss wrote:>> Sincerely - fuck off with the bullshit MAGA hat
wearing politics. Don't email me directly again.>> On 3/17/2022 10:23 PM, JD
Austin wrote:>> Show them you get your news from only one side without telling
them... (I couldn't resist):>
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart> Looks like you're living
in an echo chamber of mostly one bias which is just opposite of Greg's.>>
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias>
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/slate/>
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/usa-today-2/>
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/> The convenience.org link seems
to be a blog of some sort for the NACS magazine. It seems mostly balanced on
bias from what I can tell.> The reason "Donald Trump was a relative success
story, with prices climbing a mere 6 cents during his time in office ($2.33 on
Jan. 23, 2017; $2.39 on Jan. 25, 2021)." is because he opened domestic oil
production to offset when foreign sources reduce the oil supply for our
refineries. Biden shut it down again.>> It doesn't take a huge stretch of logic
to understand that shutting down domestic crude oil in place and pipelines in
development adversely affected the price of fuel in America.> When Biden shut
down domestic oil and pipelines to get oil from closer sources we lost all the
control he had over the topic since we rely on foreign sources which might not
really be so friendly to America otherwise. I agree that it's not all Biden's
fault... our house and senate made a mess of this country playing politics and
I don't have a ton of faith in their leadership. Only 2 years until it gets
really ugly again.>> JD>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:05 PM Thomas Cameron via
PLUG-discuss <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> Tell me you're an
idiot without telling me you're an idiot.>>>>
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/dont-blame-biden-for-gas-prices.html>>
https://www.convenience.org/Media/conveniencecorner/Does-the-President-Control-Gas-Prices>>
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/10/fact-check-higher-gas-prices-due-national-and-seasonal-demand/5253346001/>>
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/09/us/politics/fact-check-republicans-biden-gas.html>>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/bogus-gop-claim-that-biden-is-responsible-higher-gasoline-prices/>>>>
On 3/17/22 17:12, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:>>>> Lets go
Brandon!>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------->>
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10Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 00:20:38 -0700From: Michael Butash
<[email protected]>To: Main PLUG discussion list
<[email protected]>Subject: Re: ot - gas priceMessage-ID:
<CADWnDss_wgY2O46Nqg49=cp-rr-vdjv84b7kjybp_2rmpzb...@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"Don't like gas prices? Guess you could always try
your luck with
thisapproach...https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/19/gas-pumps-insecure-typical-router/Wouldn't
surprise me to find out those things hang out on probably insecurewireless at
the more janky stations that can't be bothered or too cheap torun ethernet
drops out there to the pumps.-mbOn Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 7:30 PM Ed via
PLUG-discuss <[email protected]> wrote:> Michael, AAA does a
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11Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 04:27:13 -0400From: Steve Litt
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gas priceMessage-ID: <[email protected]>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=US-ASCIIMichael via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 17 Mar 2022
15:46:57 -0400>What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in
florida.>>-- >:-)~MIKE~(-:Hey :-)~MIKE~(-: , I sent you to /dev/null a few
years ago then pulled you out because Ifelt sorry for you. Now I'm sending you
there again, forever. Eitheryou're so friggin stupid that you didn't suspect
your stupid questionwould inevitably cause a left/right civil war flareup that
we've so faravoided on most Linux lists, or you're one of the most
destructivetrolls I've ever seen, sabotaging a very good *Linux* list.Don't
bother responding to me: I've already /dev/nulled anything comingfrom your
email address, direct, or via any mailing list.Oh, and one last thing: As I
used to do with all your other trivialquestions whose answers were a web search
away:https://lmgtfy.app/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=price%20of%20gas%20in%20arizonaSteveTSteve
Litt March 2022 featured book: Making Mental Models: Advanced
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