Heartbreaking story Michael!!

Lots of good feedback. To the person offering to teach me a workflow if I touch type, thank you very much. I have been trying to convert to touch typing.... I am close but type extremely slow when touch typing. I hunt and peck most of the time.

Since I really like Ubuntu for LAMP servers I'm thinking I might jump back into Linux on my desktop by starting with Kubuntu. I tried Kubuntu probably 6 years ago or longer and did not like it that much. I figure that is a good place to start.

Thanks for all the feedback!!






On 2022-03-24 18:14, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I never know on which monitor an application will launch in after I
start it.

Funny, this is one of my biggest complaints about KDE since the 4.x
days.  I use a thunderbolt dock for my 2 external displays, and
occasionally will lose power or accidentally wiggle the laptop too
much, power down the displays, or just want to save on power/heat to
power off myself, all hell breaks loose.  Often once they come back
up, it'll do some random combination of one or all of 1) reverse the
order of the displays, 2) reset all settings of my displays (like
resolution/hz), 3) jumble every damn window of mine to random places,
4) move everything to one display only, and 5) resize all my windows
only on my 3rd display only to be 1px wide.  This is a 4k monitor with
not very thick window borders to begin with to do so!

Freakin' maddening, particularly #5 makes me want 5 finger death punch
my display when I have to manually resize a few dozen windows on it!
Even worse about #5 above, once I resize the window, if I try to move
the window vs. resize it, it snaps like a rubberband to be 1px wide
again.  What the hell would you even begin with to troubleshoot
*that*?.  Is it kde base, kwin, video drivers/card, hdmi vs.
displayport, mesa, or xorg?  They all blame each other, or me for
being fancy with my hardware, so I gave up trying.

Trying to describe these to resolve in a bugtracker only nets me
somewhere between a confused wtf sort of answer or "ohh, mr fancy with
3x 4k displays, none of us have that to test with, sorry not sorry".
It's like that Dave Chappelle episode teaching customer service at the
printers, "If the customer says they have windows, tell them you only
know mac.  If they say they have mac, tell them you only know windows.
 If they say they have windows and mac, tell them you only know
linux!"

I've tried gnome shell (hate it), cinnamon (tolerate it, has it's own
display issues), mate (like it, but missing functionality I'm used to
in Cinnamon and/or KDE), and unity (hated it, thankfully rip), still
come back to KDE even with maddening persistent multi-monitor flaws
for well over a decade now.  I've tried xfce, i3, some others, but
just never "got it".  I am not a developer and understand why they
prefer the tiling - I just don't work that way 98% of the time.  I
move windows lots, and keep a lot of apps open buried in layers,
calling them forth from my dock as needed, for that KDE + Cairo-Dock
work great, so long as I keep the displays powered up 24/7.

-mb

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 2:40 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:

I have Kubuntu installed on my machine.  I like it but the only
thing
that bugs me about KDE is that I have 2 monitors on this machine and
I
never know on which monitor an application will launch in after I
start it.

On 3/22/22 15:23, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
In the past there has been some discussion about which is better
GNOME
or KDE?  I like Mint and I see it offers MATE (a fork of GNOME 2)
or
Cinnamon (a fork of GNOME 3).  It has been years and I think I
selected Cinnamon for my desktop.

Does it matter?

I tried Ubuntu and I did not like it for my workstation.  However
for
servers I only want Ubuntu.

Thanks!!

PS I'm on a mission and might have dozens of questions.  Thank you
in
advance!!


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