Since it appears that GD isn’t being helpful, get a copyright lawyer (you might even be able to find one on legalshield.com for cheap) and go after both the new host owner and GD for a DMCA violation. My experience has been if such is done and it looks like it might be a good case, the hosting provider will settle with you real damned fast in order to avoid a court case.
-Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Legal Servicing Dept. > On Jul 23, 2022, at 7:24 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-22 23:05, Joseph Sinclair via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> TL;DR Have your friend contact GoDaddy, ideally by logging into their >> existing account and contacting support from there, and request they >> delete all content as you no longer control the site and they no >> longer have any right to continue serving that content. > Contact with GD was made. They are no help. > >> Most likely, the new owner simply didn't make any change to the name >> server entries when they bought it (domain gamblers tend to do that a >> lot). > >> Basically, the name still resolves to the same site host, and the >> purchaser is waiting for your friend to beg them to "return their >> domain" so as to keep the site (and presumably the business) running. >> Some just kind of wait for contact, others will wait about 90 days, >> then send email to the website warning of a deadline and demanding >> heavy payment to not redirect it to a parking page or something >> similar. > > Name Servers:ns11.domaincontrol.com <http://ns11.domaincontrol.com/> and > ns12.domaincontrol.com <http://ns12.domaincontrol.com/> <- that looks like > GoDaddy. > > His hosting expired a long time ago. > > The new guy getting the website seems fishy to me. > > My friend paid GD to make contact with the domain owner to see if he would > sell. GD was not able to make any progress - current owner does not respond > to emails and the domain has privacy. > > > > >> A lot depends on who the host provider is. If, as in this case, the >> host provider is the same as the domain provider (side note, don't do >> that in the future; always separate the two so nobody controls both >> but you), then you may have some issues, but at least in theory your >> friend can, at minimum, ask that the hosted content (which they still >> own and on which they hold copyright) be removed. >> If the host provider is separate from the domain provider, then you >> could either arrange back payment and regain control, then point a new >> domain to the site, or ask the host to remove the content (again based >> on ownership and copyright). >> In this case (with GoDaddy hosting both), I hope your friend has >> backups of the site and can redeploy elsewhere, and I hope GoDaddy >> does the right thing relatively quickly (sometimes they can be >> difficult in this regard). >> This doesn't apply in your case, but one other, somewhat ugly, >> possibility does exist. Some host providers use a domain challenge to >> identify the site owner if they lose access otherwise (they have you >> put a code in a dns record to prove you are you). >> Those are particularly pernicious as anyone with control of the >> domain actually can steal the site and content by claiming to have >> forgotten a password (which can result in theft of an entire business >> identity for purely online businesses, and is a form of identity >> theft). >> Always worth checking if your hosting provider uses that option, and >> ask them to either administratively disable that (permanently), or >> move to a different hosting provider (assuming you can). >> Note: Domain challenge to prove ownership of a domain, separate >> from ownership of the hosting account, is totally normal and >> reasonable, I'm referencing here using domain challenge to prove >> identity and ownership of the separate hosting account. >> Hopefully that helps. >> Joseph Sinclair >> P.S. The domain origination date does not change unless the domain is >> returned to an unregistered state. > > Ok that is some good info. it seems this domain "expired" then GD held onto > it until someone else bought it. > > I have heard that the registers can hold a domain for up to a year w/o paying > the reg fee. > > > > > > When a domain is auctioned, it is >> never "unregistered", the registration simply transfers after GoDaddy >> takes over the registration for non-payment. >> On 2022-07-22 06:45 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have a friend who owned http://www.nationwidedr.com/ . It expired along >>> with his hosting while he was in the hospital. >>> I get the domain was available to be registered. >>> Here is the interesting part. Somehow the new domain owner also was able >>> to get his WordPress website complete with all of his business content. It >>> appears not to have been changed. >>> The other part is the domain shows it was registered in 2002, the original >>> date it was registered. I thought when a domain expires and is >>> re-registered by another it will show it was original registered on that >>> second date. Am I wrong? >>> Thoughts on how the new registrant got a hold of my friends WordPress >>> website? >>> The domain and hosting were at GoDaddy. >>> Something seems fishy - am I wrong? >>> Thanks!! >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > <mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > <https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss>
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