Thanks Bob!!
- I am running VB 7.0
- I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that
means DHCP.
- There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network
manger.
- Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network
is set to nat.
- ip is 10.0.2.15/25
- sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade both work
- This is not my network, I am on 192.x.x.x
On 2022-11-15 10:20, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem.
When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let
DHCP give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the
route to the internet.
What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet,
and what address do you get when you're connected to the local
network?
This just sounds like a routing issue
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's
VirtualBox
for web development testing.
VirtualBox is a mess. I cannot get it to work for PHP testing. It
will
either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it
visible
to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages.
My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create
a
guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want
to
have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put
that
IP in my browser and do some testing.
VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology. I've
said it
before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult.
Case
in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home
office.
This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot. With a little
studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are
total enigmas. I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to
understand
setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot.
I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how.
PHP is the same in my opinion. To be a PHP dev requires a large
stack
of technologies. I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too
high.
About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was
amazed to
discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level
of
complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually
looked
down on anyone who was not at his level. Yikes!!
I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection.
Anyone
know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection.
I
do not recall all 3 off the top of my head.
CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the
complexities of dependency injection. It was so subtle that you
don't
even know you are implementing dependency injection.
I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2. It hid the complexities of web
development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development
that
was rapid application development (RAD).
One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter was it's
simplicity.
A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to
start
building something.
Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not
sure
why. Can anyone shed light on this?
I read that everyone should learn how to program. Why? Programming
itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get
down
into the mud of the complexities of building an application.
I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983. I feel in love
with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And
I've
seen a lot.
What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex?
Keith
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