I think the scripters are vulnerable, however the compSci folks will be
the ones creating apps that create apps.
On 2023-06-06 09:40, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I'm saying it doesn't write code. It doesn't have to.
Business wants results with minimally acceptable quality. You build
the AI. You train the AI. You get minimally acceptable results. You
tinker with the AI if desired.
But the AI does not deliver code. It delivers useful results within
statistically acceptable tolerances.
It doesn't make coders obsolete, it makes CODE obsolete. (Except for
the AI experts' code to build, manage, and improve the AI
)
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023, 08:30 James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
Try copilot and see all the wonderful ways you've never thought of
to make terrible code even if it passes tests. Programming the AI
to write ok code is harder than writing the code right now.
I'm all for the AI stuff. It's great as a convenient method to
google, etc. And codefill is... eh. If you have a reasonable
amount of code in your base already, it can do pretty good at
boilerplate. Probably helps out 1/4 of the time above standard IDE
library stuff. (totally scientific measurement of "eh, this").
Here's the thing. In any system you have a certain amount of
complexity (entropy) that makes your thing different from the other
folk. Reducing boilerplate and the total amount of work to specify
the complexity is fair game, but if you add too much complexity to
the language to reduce complexity of typing it, that's where things
lose out. Perhaps AI can help with this, reduce the load on our
poor hooman brains to remember the various options.
Where it will definitely have an effect is repeated tasks (making
another web frontend router) and information retrieval.
Just my thoughts on it.
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 8:07 AM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
We are worried about AI learning to do programming and taking over
programming jobs.
Modern AI doesn't produce code, it makes writing a lot of code
unnecessary.
It may not be that programmers become obsolete but that coding as we
know it now becomes obsolete.
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:25 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
I don't get it...
On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 5:03 AM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
Pointy haired manager to programmer: We are thinking of replacing
programming with AI.
Programmer: Don't you mean you plan to replace programmers with AI.
PHM: No, replace programming itself.
P: How? Why?
PHM: Well, the Big, Poorly Understood AI produces really good
results without actually writing code.
P: Go on...
PHM: Plus it's cheap and really, really prolific and efficient.
P: Sure, but its quality is awful!!
PHM: So is the quality of your software, all software, really.
P. Yeah, but the AI's quality is MUCH worse!
PHM: Yes, but the AI is so affordable, efficient, and prolific,
that the wrongful death lawsuits will be just a cost of doing
business, and we'll still come out ahead according to the actuaries.
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