This may sound kind of funny but I remember conversations a long time ago about 
email hosting and at the time it was actually suggested if you want to keep 
your data away from the three-letter-agencies, to sign up for and use an 
account from a Russian email provider.

The rational being while Russia might be spying on you, The 
three-letter-agencies can't and Russia isn't going to share information with 
them.

That said I haven't used an anti-virus in years as I haven't used Windows in 
years, at least on personal machines. Machines I use for work have whatever 
said company installed on them.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 8:09 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> 
> I'm quite certain all three letter agencies spy on us at the behest of the DC 
> establishment as they create the laws and Wall Street has their spies as well.
> its all about commerce and trade.  always has been.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 10:17:52 PM MST, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Nope!
> 
> I saw that situation coming about 10 years ago. Also, wouldn’t trust AVAST or 
> other similar eastern EU products for much the same reason.
> 
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Software Insecurity Dept.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2024, at 8:02 PM, wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sure most of you have heard about kaspersky now being banned from the 
>> U.S. I figured that was going to happen since Russia has control over 
>> business in that country and a national security threat to the U.S....
>> Is anyone else surprised by this. 
>> 
>> Harold Hartley
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