Kevin, Sorry if you misread that as an attempt to insult Dennis.
Im certainly not invalidating his contribution here, but it should be noted that I find the understandings of things like 'spam' and 'off topic' are a bit crude amongst the participants on this list. 'Spam', 'Off topic' and most importantly 'Relevance' are quite elusive concepts. So much so there is a company called Google that built an entire business out of it. I hear they do pretty well. Happy Friday, -jmz On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Kevin Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calm down guy. All he did was point out a problem that exists on mailing > lists. > He didn't point fingers or anything, you interpreted it differently. > Here this is more constructive. > > Thank you Dennis for pointing this out to me. > > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:43:27PM -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > On 27 Mar 2008 21:50:58 -0700, Dennis Kibbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mail clients, like Evolution & T'bird are not designed to handle mail > lists where you receive a large volume of mail that can clog your inbox and > which is often off topic. > > > > Dennis, Herein lies the problem- the sematics of 'off topic'. 'Off > > topic' has an entirely subjective use. For those who subscribe to > > this list to trade System Administration tips, this thread is *Off > > Topic*. > > > > > > > > One way to get around this problem is to read the list with a > newsreader like pan or gnus (Emacs). You can do this at www.gmane.org by > subscribing to gmane.org.user-groups.linux.phoenix. > > > > There are lots of tools available for mitigating the problems you, > > and many others before you, have identified. Blogging, Digg, Social > > Networking and many more are established methods of managing the > > problem of signal-to-noise ratios on internet based communications > > media. While I am not really that familiar with gmane, it is hardly > > the dominant solution for this class of problems. > > > > What confuses the hell out of me is why have all this legal > > overhead when these usage scenarios can be enforced with technology > > rather than stipulating acceptable behavior guidelines such as you > > have just done. I mean, this is a group for computer programmers > > right? > > > > "NO TOP POSTING!!!!!" > > > > Best, > > > > Joshua Zeidner > > > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > A news reader will let you easily "score" articles so those that you > want to read rise to the top and those you don't want to read will either > sink to the bottom or not show up at all. Articles also "expire" so that your > news inbox is self-emptying. Your normal mail inbox is reserved for, well, > mail. > > > > > > You still need to subscribe to the actual list via the PLUG site if you > want to post, but you can elect to receive the digest rather than individual > posts and then put yourself on "vacation hold" so even that doesn't show up. > > > > > > If you need to contact the administrator of the list that is best done > thought the appropriate email address rather than posting to the list. > Requests to unsubscribe and other purely admin matters are handled through > this email address which is different than the one used to post or the > mailman page and not by posting to the list proper. > > > > > > Dennisk > > > -- > > > "Free as in Freedom" > > > Free Software Foundation > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
