VOIP will not shield your privacy from interception from NSA!

End to end encryption is about the best one can currently do, other than 
ceasing all actions that need to be private in any place but in person. 
 
Anything with a PSTN trunk is switched to their centers (thanks Cisco).
Anything that traverses the internet is part of current monitoring - data 
sampling.  If they want to intercept your soft phone or VOIP calls that's all 
build into the monitoring model.


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--- On Wed, 7/9/08, keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: keith smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:14 PM


That's pretty crazy stuff!!!!!!


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Keith Smith
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--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Joshua Zeidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Spy Bill Debate Comes to an End
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 9:03 PM

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Carlos Macedo Gomes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I learned in a college PoliSci class that moving is a valid form of
> political participation but
 it should likley be done as a last resort
> :-)
>
> I would suggest donating to (or volunteering with) the EFF:
> http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/07/09
>
https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?cause_id=159&fp=930d7&fundraiser_id=8803368&m=9deb6
>
> Also teaching folks about privacy, cryptography, and VoIP may be an
option.
>
> There's also a Facebook connect to the EFF cause for those interested.
>  A couple friends of mine and are on there.

  you may want to watch this video before you go any further with that:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogtTQs8Kzw

  -jmz

-- 
"Never take counsel of your fears." - Andrew Jackson

 - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/
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