I worked 60 hours a week at $30,000 in 1995 at an ISP.

Working with people who could juggle 20 projects with laughing ease, rebuild a 
24X7 server and swap IP Addresses, knowing how to clear the arp cache on 
everything (which we, of course had access to, controlling all routers, 
switches and firewalls) pretty much ruined me.

I also have some contempt for the American who egotistically holds down a 
chair, after working with dull and inexperienced, yet extremely motivated 
Hindis.  

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January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security 
Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:37 -0700
From: m...@garfias.org
To: klsmith2...@yahoo.com; plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: Linux Administration

What a dork. And expecting good people for that much?  Jeez.  Maybe if I was a 
junior guy and needed beer money it might be ok, but no thanks.
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM, keith smith <klsmith2...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I see this stuff from time to time.  He is in for a rude awakening since they 
are asleep while we are awake.


Funny thing is the phone shops are starting to come back to the US.  

Even though I can hire a PHP programmer for $5 - $12 and hour offshore I would 
never.  I've seen their work and I'll pass.  Not to mention the copyright 
issues that arise.  



------------------------
Keith Smith


--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Lisa Kachold <lisakach...@obnosis.com> wrote:

From: Lisa Kachold <lisakach...@obnosis.com>

Subject: RE: Linux  Administration
To: klsmith2...@yahoo.com, plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us

Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:25 PM




I personally was slightly aghast that people were offering to provide offshore 
based linux administration for $250 for a month?

Did you see that?

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January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security 
Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
Take the Black [Linux BT3] Pill & leave SecurityMatrix, or take the Blue 
[XP/Vista Pill] & stay happily ignorant.


Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:32 -0800
From: klsmith2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Linux  Administration
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us





I'm not sure what you are trying to tell us Lisa.  Please be more verbose.



------------------------
Keith 





--- On Sat, 12/27/08, Lisa Kachold <lisakach...@obnosis.com> wrote:
From: Lisa Kachold <lisakach...@obnosis.com>

Subject: Linux  Administration
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 7:02 PM




http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/Linux/Level-System-Admin-for-EST.html

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January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security 
Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM
Take the Black [Linux BT3] Pill & leave SecurityMatrix, or take the Blue 
[XP/Vista Pill] & stay happily ignorant.




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