Okay, 

You can go a few ways:

1) Call Jim Rhodes at Rhino Equipment and buy one of his pre-engineered 
hardware drop and dial systems (Trixbox I believe).

2) Build your own:

Let's spec this out to get good quality VOIP with good equipment:

First, you can end up paying a good deal for lines from the phone company.  You 
want to judge your expansion accordingly and order T1/ISDN or fractional frame 
cards instead of phone line cards (referred to as FX0 cards) and circuits from 
the telco.  [Note, ordering the lines can be tricky - be sure to completely 
spec and research your project].

FAST Processor and sufficient memory with no less than RAID 1 (hardware 
preferred) for read/write speed. 
FX0 cards come in 4 line cards which gives us the 2 in and 2 out available from 
Digium or Rhino Equipment.
I also would add a nice IAX2 or SIP trunk defined via source and destination to 
the outbound provider also.  

Installing the cards, since they are PCI cards, can become and IRQ issue, some 
motherboards are more efficient with FX0 and Digium cards, see voip-info.org 
and Digium sources.  Also, be prepared to do some PCI BIOS work to ensure that 
one IRQ is not kicking off something or power management causing the warbling 
sound as the ethernet card wakes on lan.  

The last peice that can be especially problematic is your VOIP handset or 
softphones.  You can buy low end ATA's like Grandsteam that you plug a handset 
into (even cordless ones will work here), or get nice VOIP handsets of all 
quality. 

The last thing to consider is your bandwidth and QoS network.  If you have 
10baseT network cards, no switch and extensive bottlenecks your voice quality 
will suffer before ever getting to the far side of the connection.  So, 
obviously good downstream and upsteam is optimal.  As you can see you would 
best get a nice  T1 or ISDN with 1/2 of the circuits applied to data and the 
other 1/2 to voice (there are some pros and cons industry wide) with 1000baseT 
throughout so that would entail an additional splitter or  channel bank.

By this time you might have just bought a Cisco Digital T1 packet voice network 
module.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps259/product_data_sheet09186a0080194e20.html

To play with Voip, all you really need is a computer.  I built a home based 
Trixbox on a 2.0Ghz Fry's barebones system I built in 1998 custom that worked 
fine.  My SIP trunk was axvoice.com and my VOIP phones were soft and a 
Grandsteam ATA plugged into a free analog phone.

It worked. The quality was acceptable enough to run with full recording on.  I 
could enhance the recordings to  separate out portions of the analog signal and 
enhance.  Everyone could hear me better than my BlackBerry at times.   It rang 
whatever line I wanted including my cell phone (with unlimited calls to home, I 
could then grab and outside line and dial/talk for free) and it did all this 
over cox cable, but it took me (with VOIP and Linux experience) about 10 hours 
to build and setup as well as about 1 hour to maintain.

If you are seriously interested in having assistance for this solution and want 
rates  contact me offlist.

I am confident that anyone on this list is capable of building one of these 
systems, given time and accessing the various VOIP resources.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:07:37 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: GrandCentral via Asterisk
To: [email protected]



Okay, all this sounds really cool.  What would it cost a small business to set 
one of these up?

Say a simple 2 inbound lines, 2 outbound lines, and a fax.  3 or 4 simple 
handsets (What kind of handsets do you use?)  cost?

Is this strictly VOIP?  VOIP has shown to have lower quality the few times I 
have been exposed to it.  

My point of reference is 1992 or 1993 when one would buy an ATT or one of the 
many other small business phone switches for maybe $3,000 - $5,000.

Also someone mentioned buying a trunk.  What is the number of lines?

I get the feeling I'm looking at this through 15 year old technology and things 
have changes significantly.  For instance I worked at a place that had a trunk 
of about 100 lines as I recall.

------------------------
Keith Smith




--- On Tue, 1/20/09, Lisa Kachold <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Lisa Kachold <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: GrandCentral via Asterisk
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 9:15 AM




Yes,  I agree with [email protected]:

I have been a Stromberg Carlson Central Office DCO Technician,  Senior 
Voice/Data Network Analyst for Nike, VOIP Engineer for AffinityVoipTelecom.com 
and Support Engineer Manager for RhinoEquipment.com 
 
Asterisk can do a great deal all based on the configuration files in 
/etc/asterisk.
Fonality does not have deep technical support, rather providing cost based 
services and failing to fix breakage.
Since there are so many different applications of Asterisk, Trixbox, FreePBX 
this is a good place for profit for the entrepreneur.
Compiled sources is a better solution, obviously.
FreePBX is the magic behind the solution allowing a GUI to setup most of the 
user applications, testing and CMS.

All asterisk VOIP products can be a huge security issue, but the spyware was 
especially shameful.

This solution with PBXInAFlash is an EASY solution that will be able to provide 
a
 fine dialaround, voicemail, record all calls, Unlimited calls to home (from 
Cell provider) for dial around to get unlimited cell minutes from SIP trunk 
line, CMS, click to fax from Windows, etc.  

You can configure your autoattendant, provide even an outside line with a 
password, get a nice SIP signature for your email.  Call sip people, put a few 
VOIP Clients on your linux boxes and a nice hunt group (try grandstream ATA in 
bathroom, then call my Linux desktop, then my laptop. then my office phone, 
finally my cell phone) for any incoming call.  You can setup a DialAVOIP 
Technician line?  DialAClownJoke would be nice on the main menu?  Setup record 
all calls, then GabCast call to Cox Cable, or your Senator, or Bank in comedic 
ways?

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:35:07 -0700
Subject: Re: GrandCentral via Asterisk
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

The main reason I recommend PBXInAFlash over Trixbox is that 
1. After the famous root exploit pre-installed spyware incident I don't trust 
Fonality.
2. They have a long history of delivering broken installs but have been getting 
better in the last year or so.

3. They say they're an open source project but don't really act like one.
4. Trixbox is RPM based , and PBXInAFlash uses Centos 5 but compiles all of the 
asterisk components from source (which is what you have to do most of the time 
to fix Trixbox).

5. Unlike a lot of other distributions PBXInAFlash doesn't try to hide that 
FreePBX is doing all of he real magic that those distributions taking credit 
for.
6. PBXInAFlash works reliably and doesn't have everything under the sun thrown 
in that you don't need. 


That said, Kerry Garrison's tutorials are pretty good.
In either case if you want to learn start here:
http://dumbme.mbit.com.au/
http://dumbme.mbit.com.au/piaf/piaf_without_tears.pdf

http://dumbme.mbit.com.au/trixbox2/trixbox2_without_tears.pdf

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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Lisa Kachold <[email protected]> wrote:






Yea Howdy!

Trixbox ala Kerry Garrison is a really easy PBX setup (complete with everything 
you need for an AutoAttendant, Voicemail, Fax, CMS, dial around and through 
apps)  that installs from an ISO:  http://www.trixbox.org/downloads

 
Kerry Garrison offers easy to follow videos here: asterisktutorials.com  - 
search for trixbox.

Simple setup How-Tos exist at voip-info.org


Course you can get a fine PSTN SIP trunk from axvoice.com for $9.99 a month or 
buy FX0 cards for a phone line (or lines).

You can buy a drop and dial asterisk based configuration from Jim Rhodes over 
at Rhinoequipment.com.


I think my name is still on some of the bash scripts for the Trixbox 2.0 
release from contributions?

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:19:24 -0700
Subject: Re: GrandCentral via Asterisk
From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]

Asterisk is the engine that enables pstn/voip connectivity (think linux kernel).

Asterisk when bundled with other open source software can do all the things 
GrandCentral does and more provided you give it the connectivity it needs to do 
so (PSTN or voip).  A good place to start is with PBXInAFlash (pbxinaflash.org).



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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Kurt Granroth 
<[email protected]> wrote:

I know that there are some people on this list that use Asterisk a

decent bit.  Those that do... are you familiar with GrandCentral?  If

so, how do they compare?



http://www.grandcentral.com/home/features



I really like the control that something like GrandCentral gives you.

The ability to choose where you receive a call (home, cell, work, etc)

based on who is calling or when they are calling is a killer feature for me.



Alas, there are just too many potential gotchas with that service to

really commit to it other than as a play-thing (or as a number passed

out freely to businesses and warranty cards and the like).  What I would

like is that kind of control... but in a way that *I* control it all!



So no calls being routed through a 3rd party server; no voicemails

stored on their server; no need to upload all of my contacts to a search

company; etc.



Asterisk seems like it might be able to do all that... but who can tell?

 Their site is horribly disorganized and when you do find a "feature"

page, they spend all their time in an acronym frenzy.



So... does anybody know?



Kurt




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