I agree with you on that, T. I've generally tell unsatisfied Windows
users that Microsoft isn't in business to make good software, they're in
business to make MONEY! Linux, OTOH, is a completely different business
model.

On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 22:09 +0000, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> Craig,
> 
> I think the "problem" with companies like Apple and Microsoft are they're 
> slaves to their shareholders.  These companies have made their money off a 
> business model Windows/Office for Microsoft and Ipod/Mac for Apple.  
> Subsequently, investors have brought into these business models, and 
> Microsoft and Apple must adhere to their investors.  Once companies get to 
> that point they will do whatever's necessary to protect their marketshare
> 
> Am I making sense at all?  Typing on this Blackberry is a chore :-p
> 
> 
> Tameek Henderson
> 646.427.3205
> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/116/522
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig White <[email protected]>
> 
> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:49:13 
> To: Main PLUG discussion list<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Google Problem 1/31
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 14:13 -0700, Jason wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 20:26 +0000, Tameek Henderson wrote:
> > > I'm starting to believe hating Microsoft and/or Apple are prequisite
> > > for this Linux Groups.  Anyway, my name is Ty, I'm a noob, also just
> > > moved to Arizona.  Good day to you all.
> > 
> > A lot of people say that. But the reality is that you get sick of
> > Microsoft and their games. Apple, I kinda like them now that they are
> > moving away from the DRM crap and so on.
> ----
> I think you are living in alternate reality. Yes, they did free up their
> iTunes store from selling DRM but that's because they could see that
> purchasers were figuring out how much they were being screwed by the
> restrictions and it was hurting sales.
> 
> but if you think Apple is moving away from DRM - think again...
> 
> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/11/apple-downgrades-macbook-video-drm
> ----
> > I don't think that we hate just Microsoft...we hate people who
> > continuously try to monopolize and restrict growth to their own private
> > gains. 
> > 
> > That, of course, is the exact reason why people like Open Source
> > Software, and why Linux is growing.
> > 
> > Now, ask yourself, does Microsoft try to monopolize and restrict growth
> > (and even usage)? Does Apple? Does Linux? BSD? Unix? What about Cisco
> > and their IOS?
> > 
> > So, is it a prerequisite to hate those restrictive companies? 
> > 
> > I'll let you ponder that and maybe you can see why there is "bad blood"
> > between some of us and those companies.
> ----
> I don't disagree with your logic but I do disagree with your assessment
> of Apple and it seems evident to me that Apple would be equally as bad
> as Microsoft if they actually had market share.
> 
> They also have been heavy handed with the applications that they allow
> for sale in iTunes store for iPhone and iPod/iPod Touch
> 
> And as long as I'm dumping on Apple...why didn't they help deliver a
> version of OOo for OSX and even to this day, MacBooks/iMac's still come
> with a 'trial' version of Microsoft Office instead of a free copy of
> OOo.
> 
> The simple fact is that these companies are corporations that will
> continually sell you the same software over and over again with
> artificial restrictions imposed on the 'purchaser'.
> 
> For me, it's not a question of hate because I don't hate these companies
> but I extremely dislike their marketing tactics, their intentional
> design choices that disfavors the consumers of their products and their
> excessive control over the hardware manufacturers that complicates life
> for the Linux user.
> 
> Craig
> 
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