Don't need to run as root,  you are a sudoer?  All one needs to do it run it 
from the desktop in KDE or Gnome and it will happily prompt you for 
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Each mo...@noon - 3PM> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:53:16 -0700> Subject: Re: 
HackFest Linux Security Series: Happy Valentines Day - How to       Create a 
Linux Virus in Five Minutes "Required Reading for the  Enlightened MailLister"> 
From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> > But 
how many ppl run with near root like access?> > Here not many but my first nix 
box I did..> > And isn't the partial point of hack fest to get ppl going?> > > 
On 2/13/09, Sharkscott <[email protected]> wrote:> > *That's the *whole 
point* of using *nix! A user cannot kill the *system*.> > That is the whole 
point....*> >> > And that is something that they will just never never get.> >> 
> Scott> >> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Jason <[email protected]> 
wrote:> >> >> Umm, no offense, but this article is a ton of "if-then-else" 
type> >> thinking.> >>> >> "You can...no, really, you can...if..."> >>> >> I 
love the line about "Just because it can't affect the whole system> >> doesn't 
mean it can't cause damage."> >>> >> That's the *whole point* of using *nix! A 
user cannot kill the *system*.> >> That is the whole point....> >>> >> Lisa, I 
think you sent this just to get people going....:)> >>> >>> >> On Fri, 
2009-02-13 at 16:43 +0000, Lisa Kachold wrote:> >> > On Friday the 13th, the 
end of the universe as we know it, right> >> > before Valentines Day attachment 
madness, we examine the techno-urban> >> > myth "Linux is more secure than 
Windows" with this excellent treatise> >> > on linux security.  It includes 
"Getting Root" and "pwning your> >> > friends/enemies" in one easy click.> >> 
>> >> > obnosis.com | wiki.obnosis.com| (503)754-4452> >> > PLUG HACKFESTS 2nd 
Saturday Each mo...@noon - 3PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 
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--> > Scott Ruecker,> > Editor-in-Chief> > LXer Linux News> >> > "The world 
doesn't need saving. But the word does, and editing is what> > fights the good 
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