I have developed in allot of languages, and when the original question was 
asked about language I suggested Ruby.  But I think there was a little 
confusion about that.

Ruby and Rails (i.e. RoR) are two completely different things.  Rails is a web 
application framework.  What this means is that it is used to build 
applications, not websites, that use the web for interaction with the user the 
way a C program would use X.  What I suggested the OP learn if they wanted to 
learn to program with a modern language is Ruby... Not rails.

Ruby has all the basics, and holds on to OO principles better than any other 
language... Even Java.  It also has IRB an interactive environment where a 
programmer can play in a live session and see immediate cause and effect.  
Plus, there are a plethora of books and websites on writing Ruby programs.

Why not Python? It also has the interactive shell doesn't it?  Well yes it 
does, but it has many security issues, and does not properly follow OO 
principles.  While learning, you should learn in an environment that enforces 
proper form, Python does not do that because the language is missing too many 
elements.  I would put Mono and Visual Basic in this same category.

Why not Java?  It follows proper OO principles doesn't it?  Why yes it does.  
But there is no learning environment like Python and Ruby.

Why not a procedural language like C or Perl?  Too many modern environments use 
OO for interactive programs.  Servers are a different story, but learning to 
program by learning to write servers is like teaching your 16 year old to drive 
in an 18 wheeler.  They will learn allot more, but not the easiest path to the 
desired goal.

And finally, well if C is the wholly grail, but you want it OO, why not C++?  
If you ever used C++, like I have, you would not ask that question.

Far too often people confuse learning with practicality.  Some languages are 
good at some things, some are good at others.  The OP asked for a language that 
he could learn how to program and there were allot of fandom posturing, over 
this language or that.  What got lost in much of the conversation is that this 
is not about what language is good gor task x or task y, but instead what 
language will help the OP learn to program with a modern language.

I hope this clearifies my previous comments.

Kevin

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