Am 16. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so:

I have a myTouch since November.  I like it, though it is laggy
sometimes, like a computer using the swap file too much.  If I were to
buy now, I'd get a Nexus One.

Yeah, for me I'm going Nexxus One or N900.

As you your requirements...

- Most of your list is not possible on any Android phone unless you
replace the software with some other build.  There are many out there

True, I guess I should've thought more about what I want from my phone
and what I want from my wife's phone. Nexxus One and N900 hit all of my
required features, don't they?

and probably can do what you want but you will then be outside the
boundaries of support from T-Mobile.  For you and many here on this
list this is not a big problem.  Just thought you should know the
limitation.

I appreciate you mentioning it.

-- As far as I know, you will have to replace the OS build in order to
get the following features:
. bluetooth tethering
. ssh out
. root access
. play ogg-vorbis
. ssh in across cell network
. USB tethering
. tetherable via wifi

No tethering on the t-mobile phones? Verizon is advertising tethering up
to 5 devices to a droid. I find it difficult to believe Verizon would be
first to market with some customer service feature.

- As far as I know you will not get any of the following features with
any of the Android phones currently available:
. tether and call at the same time

Hmm. I was told that's possible.

. on phone internet connection and call at the same time

Same here.

. phone to phone communication via bluetooth
. phone to phone communication via wifi
. can use external display ( monitor and/or TV )

- For the feature "contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux" I don't know
what to answer.  All Android phones sync contacts, calendar, email
with your Google account.  So if your GNU/Linux contact management can
sync with your Google accounts, it is also syncing with your phone.

Um. No Google account. Well, OK, I now have one for work, so I'll get to
use this, but that's not where my important contacts and preferences will
be listed.

- The phone comes with three email apps:
-- GMail is for your, um, GMail.
-- Mail is for some general email account somewhere so you can use
this one for your own servers.

Cool. I will be testing this one :).

-- Work Email will connect to a (ugh) Exchange server and get email that way.

And avoiding this one.

-- I have several email accounts that feed to my GMail account so I
can do them all in the GMail app.

- The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a
specific signature.  No signature, the binary will not run.  This
means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones.  In
other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the
software.  I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone
except that they can only update it via official releases, which are
slow coming.

Very good to know. The Mot phones just dropped off the list. I
specifically plan on not mucking with the software on my wife's phone, but
that doesn't mean I won't want to do so some other time.

I just learned that t-mobile is doing 2 for 1 on droid phones, so I'll
have a spare droid anyway :).

Thanks for the info!!!

ciao,

der.hans

Alan

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, der.hans <[email protected]> wrote:
moin moin,

I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best meet
the following requirements?

Required features:
. bluetooth tethering
. ability to turn off GPS if one is available
. ssh out
. bluetooth
. connect to my own mail servers
. root access
. play ogg-vorbis
. contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux

Desired features:
. tether and call at the same time
. on phone internet connection and call at the same time
. ssh in across cell network
. USB tethering
. fully functional while charging
. root access w/o jailbreaking
. wifi
. tetherable via wifi
. phone to phone communication via bluetooth
. phone to phone communication via wifi
. GPS
. camera and video
. external storage card, prefer sdmc
. can use external display ( monitor and/or TV )

Any features that I forgot?

t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1.
Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a contract, so
deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost equally expensive.
I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my wife.

What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, what is
the add on cost?

. cell phone calling?
. internet access ( not just web )?
. tethering?
. gps?

I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus One
or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I believe it
will.

I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with ATT, but
as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work fully with ATT.

Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? This
one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan.
Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good.

ciao,

der.hans
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