2 days!?! I'm talking about standard rack power supplies.. I could have
had a new power supply in the server in 1/2 hour (if any of them had
ever failed on me)... and thats if I had walked to the store. I found
that I usually had to spend that much time making the necessary phone
calls to arrange for the repair guy or part.
Not having proprietary hardware has always been a big deal for me,
mostly because of the fact that I have been forced to maintain hardware
that didn't have any expected lifetime they bought it and expected it to
run forever, so when it finally did break... I found too often that when
I used the proprietary stuff that it was usually faster and cheaper to
just get a new server than it was to try and fix the old one, which just
ended up drawing out the down time. It would have been preferable to
get the old one back up and running for a small cost and then be able to
switch out to a new server on some planned down time.
Brian Cluff
On 08/21/2010 02:25 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
I run into the opposite problem - some tight case from unknown
manufacturer means you will never find a PSU that fits. With Dell you
call and withing 2 days you have one on your desk. As for the price it
is never 10 times the cost - some times as high as 2 times, but never
10 times. But then again I have only once had a Dell power supply go
out on me. And I have a sample size of several thousand machines and
almost 15 years.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Brian Cluff<[email protected]> wrote:
I personally don't like all the proprietary parts that dell uses, weather it
makes them easier to work on or not.
It really doesn't matter in the long run if you need to put a new power
supply into the machine, only to find that Dell is the only one on the
planet that can sell you that power supply and not only will it be a special
order, but it will cost 10 times what a standard server power supply costs
that you can get off the shelf.
Brian Cluff
On 08/21/2010 01:06 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
That is a good point - The only server upgrades I do are hard drives
and memory - for which Dell is easy. But if you wanted to upgrade the
raid card, or move into a hotswap backplane or, put in redundant fiber
channel cards, or even up the cpu's; Dell is more difficult because of
it's chasy design and limited card slots. Not to mention they get
additional performance by using specialized parts - so you start to
think about dell specific cards and that can make comparisons and
price to performance evaluation more difficult.
So for me - who simply replaces the server every five years and does a
minor upgrade to it before trickle down, Dell is great - if you do
more customization then it is not so good.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Kevin Fries<[email protected]> wrote:
I have run both Dell and Supermicro and have had good luck with both. If
I
had my choice, I would select Supermicro because I like the
upgradeability
over Dell. That being said, I still have two Dell R200's in my lab
running
ProxmoxVE environment that I use to do product simulations early in the
R&D
cycle that run great.
But if you want absolute Linux compatibility... look at System76.
HTH
Kevin
On Aug 21, 2010 1:37 PM, "Bryan O'Neal"
<[email protected]> wrote:
I would like to second my vote for Dell - I have had to work on some
old SuperMicro machines and it was never pleasant. Dell on the other
hand has so many killer tools and so much information and such helpful
linux people that I have never had a complaint.
BTW I can hook you up with my OEM reseller - may get you a better
discount, then again it may not. But always purchase as a business
from Dell not an individual - I hear the individual support kinda
bites and it requires nothing to be a business.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Stephen<[email protected]> wrote:>
I
have noticed dell does ...
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