You're only liable if you have pedophiliac materials in your car :D

-Dan

On Apr 26, 2011, at 9:05 AM, James Mcphee wrote:

> If someone steals my car and runs someone over, am I liable?  I'm not buying 
> this behavior as acceptable.  Our networks are not truly secure, and should 
> never be considered anything more than circumstantial evidence.  Demanding 
> turnover of computers, I find acceptable.  The home invasion I do not.  Of 
> course, if the networks are that open, I'm guessing any half-competent 
> security person could get on said computers remotely and get real evidence.
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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Lisa Kachold <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:18 PM, keith smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thought this might be interesting to some.
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> Lying on his family room floor with assault weapons trained on him, shouts of 
> "pedophile!" and "pornographer!" stinging like his fresh cuts and bruises, 
> the Buffalo homeowner didn't need long to figure out the reason for the early 
> morning wake-up call from a swarm of federal agents.
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> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13448808
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> OMG, yea howdy!
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> We are responsible for our networks!
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> Course, most of us can get into WEP and WPA/WPA2 trivially, so unless you 
> have a Radius Server (which most WiFi routers will happily work with) running 
> Enterprise WPA2, you are still "at risk" of network encroachment.  
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> While WEP/WPA/WPA2 constitutes "reasonable protection", it does not protect 
> you.  Anyone on a shared network owns you completely, with the ability to use 
> SSLStrip to even get your https logins and passwords.  
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> BUT IS THIS CRIMINAL?
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> If so, most of the "adminstrator-less" Internet Startups running insecure 
> Websites are criminal?
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> Technical Security HowTo Proof of Concept References:
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> http://www.eastmobiles.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=27:wi-fi&id=106:wpa2-key-hack-nvidia
> http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2010/07/spoofing_hack_against_wpa2_rev.php
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9x2e32voZY
> http://www.securitytube.net/video/193
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