WAIT! Why does it not say Paul RICHARD Butts was "Security Manager GoDaddy.com" in ANY of the press or public records? Because this man did not work there!
<bull baiting> James, really! You are positively too easy to reduce to pure rude emotionalism... </bull baiting> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, James Finstrom <[email protected] > wrote: > For reference: > http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/ > > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0215abrk-childpornconvict0215.html > > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210childporn1210-on.html > > Urban legends like your resume I am sure.... > > I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all > > /rant > > -james > > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi Bryan, >> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford >>> more A talent then they could several years ago. >>> >> >> Correct! Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests. They >> were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent >> (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored with >> limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most >> the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling "formal >> education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs)) >> as most security passionate linux professionals are. >> >> I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of >> professional companies who have or currently use them. >> >> As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS applications >> are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes the PLUG, >> wouldn't you say)? Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared with >> other hosting shops). But as for actual success as evidenced by Google and >> MAC, management is EVERYTHING. I know people who worked at GoDaddy, and >> while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree management is >> somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes? >> >> But hey, sure! Let's all dog gossip about each other? This James >> originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy >> myth? A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly >> belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is >> obscene. I heard a great one about myself recently? All PLUG gossip is >> fairly useless and borne of one of the 7 Deadlies.... >> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > um smoke crack much.... >>> > In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there >>> because >>> > they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest >>> at >>> > what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you >>> a $1 >>> > domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to >>> use em. >>> > I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there >>> because >>> > they are dirt cheap. >>> > As far as the old "antidote" When their head security cant secure his >>> own >>> > crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is >>> in >>> > the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider >>> their >>> > "smartest choice" >>> > As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big >>> > multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of >>> security >>> > over all is crap. >>> > --James >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Steven, >>> >> >>> >> Everyone "projects" onto others what they feel themselves at first >>> onion >>> >> layer. Some of us can identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of >>> the 7 >>> >> deadlies) and extract gossip from fact to understanding of process and >>> >> duties in technical professions and shops. >>> >> >>> >> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs, >>> >> requiring a specific type of conformist. >>> >> >>> >> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow >>> >> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of >>> employees. >>> >> >>> >> It's their culture. Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the >>> hosting >>> >> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to >>> innovate, poor >>> >> support for common users, and management shakeups. >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> James, that's a strange conclusion to draw from one (years old) >>> anecdote. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, James Finstrom >>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn. >>> >>>> This told me their security folks aren't that bright >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> > Ed, >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a >>> >>>> > Chinese >>> >>>> > firedrill every six months over there? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security >>> Services >>> >>>> > team. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/ >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > -- >>> >>>> > (602) 791-8002 Android >>> >>>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype >>> >>>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>> >>>> > ** >>> >>>> > HomeSmartInternational.com <http://www.homesmartinternational.com >>> > >>> >>>> >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> (602) 791-8002 Android >>> >> (623) 239-3392 Skype >>> >> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>> >> >>> >> HomeSmartInternational.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (602) 791-8002 Android >> (623) 239-3392 Skype >> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >> ** >> HomeSmartInternational.com <http://www.homesmartinternational.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com <http://www.homesmartinternational.com>
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