I can see that html5 will allow the heavy reliance on java to lessen.

but for now its hugely prevalent in the web, and i don't think that's
going to change to much until html5 gets a better adoption rate.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Technomage Hawke
<[email protected]> wrote:
> java presents some more specific problems for me as well. there are sites 
> that don't bother to turn on the accessibility modules in java (which is most 
> of them) causing me to get a "blank scroll area" whenever I land on them. I 
> have even tried braille output on those sites only to get nothing. between 
> java and flash, I am one very frustrated net user. as for spam, I  use 
> gmail's filter routines to auto-delete anything I don't want. it certainly 
> keeps my mail volume from getting outrageous.
>
> -eric
>
> On Nov 14, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
>
>>> On Nov 13, 2011 9:53 PM, "der.hans" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I first heard of newegg via PLUG many years ago. I've been mostly happy
>>>> with company, but I'm tired of not being able to navigate the site without
>>>> enabling javascript.
>>
>> AFAICT, JS is pretty much *required* for large parts of the WWW as it
>> currently exists.  Blame this on the marketing people ("We want to track
>> *everything*!") and people who want to do all kinds of Cool Web 2.0 Things
>> even when they're not useful.  I have to turn JS on for my phone company's
>> site to pay my phone bill.  My bank's site is just as bad; no JS, no accounts
>> page.
>>
>>>> TigerDirect is out because of spammy messenging.
>> From: Kevin Fries <[email protected]>
>>> I don't know about JavaScript, but have you tried mwave?
>>
>> If you buy anything from mwave, they'll put you on a mailing list, and you'll
>> get spam every few days.  At least it's reasonably easy to unsubscribe.
>>
>> --
>> Matt G / Dances With Crows
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>> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
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