that is exactly what I was thinking.... thanks.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Mr kitepilot didn’t finish the story, which is: “By convention, files name
> ‘.something’ are not shown in an ‘ls’ listing, nor do they match file
> globbing on the command line unless you explicitly include the leading
> period.”  (And I may have forgotten other places that leading periods have
> an effect, but I think that’s it)****
>
> ** **
>
> Thus you would have matched .*lock* and .*k and .*lo* and even .~*
> (assuming I am reading your filename right.)****
>
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>
> Rusty****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Havens
> *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2012 1:56 PM
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: Can't save... insufficient user rights****
>
> ** **
>
>  it doesn't like 'rm *lock* but only when I entered '.~lock*' instead of
> the wildcard at the beginning.****
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:51 PM, kitepilot@com 
> <[email protected]<[email protected]>>
> wrote:****
>
> There are not 'invisible files'.
> There is a 'convention' that states that files named '.something' are not
> shown in a 'ls' listing it doesn't like 'rm *lock* unless some specific
> switches are used. ****
>
> The 'dot' at the beginning, however *IS* part of the name of the file.
> Try a:
> find . -type f
> and you will find it every time.
> ET
>
> ****
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