Rusty, how did tarpit and that delay time effect non spam users?

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Carruth, Rusty
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Some time back I thought the best solution would be to form a co-op.  Members 
> of the co-op would run some sort of program to detect spammers, and then join 
> together in a DOS attack on the spammer's MTA.  Detection should be pretty 
> easy, I'd think, with minimal false positives.
>
> When I thought of that, it wasn't illegal.  It is now, so I've dropped 
> thinking about it, but it would have reduced the spam.  Of course, the 
> collateral damage (to clueless users whose machines had been 0wn3d, as a 
> minimum) would have been pretty high, and I'm not sure they would have been 
> able to figure out why their systems broke down.  Probably would have 
> required a pretty big education program, as it were, to get people to either 
> (1) stop using the primary virus propagator of the universe (I am, of course, 
> referring to a certain operating system); (2) get off the internet; or, (3) 
> keep their virus scanners up to date.  Assuming, of course, that most spam 
> comes from 0wn3d machines.  Not sure that's a valid assumption.
>
> I've tried running that thing that keeps spammers busy trying to deliver the 
> email (tarpit?  I cannot remember - the idea is you keep telling unknown MTAs 
> 'hold on a moment' for a while - say an hour or more, thus keeping their 
> delivery rate low.  I should mention that at home I run my own MTA, so it was 
> an option for me.  Anybody using their ISP's MTA (or gmail, or...) cannot do 
> this).  The problem is that you need a LOT of people running that for it to 
> do much good in spam reduction overall, and I don't' know if it reduced mine 
> (but it was satisfying to look at the headers and see that couple of hour 
> delay).
>
> I finally gave up and just kept changing my email address (and I also used 
> the spam detector in my email program).
>
> Rusty
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> On 11/09/2012 05:54 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>> > could someone send me a virus that I could 'share' with all the
>> > thieves that try to scam me?
>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> Not a prudent approach. What goes around comes around.
>>
>
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