Thanks for being so Kind and Humble Mr. Steve --- Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>So, if we were to implement device drivers > >>completely in Java we would also have > >>to implement a whole Java runtime environment > >>embedded within the hardware > >>....which in turn may require an OS. > > > > > Who said doing away with OS
So atleast U agree thats its possible to have Java in a chip ? Java is justa example, We can if willed create platform indepent device drivers by creating a Java like platform just for Hardware. What a sound computing world that would be. > > http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings > > http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/610041 > They talk about a Java enabled processor chip, > running a JavaOS. The point of the ^whole > thread^(which btw I have been reading) is whether > OS independent device drivers were possible. Now, > where (or how is it) implied > in the articles that drivers that are written for a > JavaOS on the Java enabled > chip architecture (PSC1000 in the second example) > can run on any other > architecture ..or for that matter, if any other OS > was ported to the said > architecture, it could make use of the same java > device drivers that the OS in > question would use on a different processor ?? Are U sure that something similar is impossible ? > This is as ridiculous as saying that just because > some processor is capable of > executing compiled C code, it is capable of running > the exact same code (such as > device drivers) irrespective of the OS. JAVA > In other words, even conceptually, writing device > drivers in Java does not > automatically mean it is platform independent, since > a platform (as far as > applications are concerned) essentially is comprised > of the Processor architecture and an OS. Thank god we have common internet. > I'll make it simple: > > Suppose I do get the java chip and install the Java > OS on my hypothetical > system. Now, I realize that the java chip isn't as > good as the spanking new chip > launched by AMD, can I just junk the java chip for > the AMD one and still > continue to use the Java OS ? No I can't because > although the Java OS has > drivers written in java, there is no java execution > environment to run on within > the AMD chip. I am not aware about the AMD stuff, But I didnt say anything about JavaOS, All I am saying is to have a common interface like PlugNPlay. Device driver creators will be happy aftr this. And U dont have to worry about not having OS dependent drivers for Any OS ever again. > What this thread is about would be possible if every > processor could natively > have the capability to execute instructions given to > it in a certain high level > language. In that case, all OSes could write drivers > in that language. Interface > Now whether that is about to happen anytime in the > near future ...is another thread. Will and egolessness can make it happen. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- ______________________________________________________________________ Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List: ([email protected]) List Information: http://plug.org.in/mailing-list/listinfo/plug-mail Send 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mailing instructions.
