On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 08:02 +0800, Anuerin Diaz wrote: > On 4/28/05, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/28/05, My List Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > All i can say is Linux is already difficult to learn for newbies > > > and by having an invite system or merit system to become a member > > > of plug, it will only hinder these newbies to know more about linux. > > > > One thing I can say is that there's a logical loophole I couldn't > > really comprehend: why you insist that since Linux is already hard to > > learn + a merit system for membership = makes learning harder for > > newbies. Logically it really doesn't make sense or soundness, > > symbolically or otherwise. > > > > As a newbie, you don't need to be a member of PLUG if you want to > > learn Linux. You don't even need to be a member to even get > > information - heck anyone can subscribe to the mailing lists and ask. > > You don't even get restricted in attending tech seminars if you aren't > > a member. Learning Linux is tangent to membership in PLUG. Learning > > Linux an individual process one elects to do - if you want to learn > > exert the effort to do so as no one would spoonfeed the knowhow to > > you. > > > <snip> > > exactly. its a reasoning that i cannot fully understand why people > think the membership is a pre-requisite or why would anyone > figuratively 'need' to have a membership to learn and contribute in > the FLOSS scene. > > PLUG, the organization, is a non-profit organization. membership > should not bring you tangible benefits, the giddy feeling of knowing > that you are _contributing your time and resouces_ for the wide > adoption of FLOSS is only a bonus but not a requirement. you dont even > have to be a member to get that bonus. every acquaintance i have > swayed in using FLOSS (not necessarily GNU/Linux) is already giving me > that giddy feeling because i know i made a contribution. the PLUG name > does not even get into the picture at that point unless i see that the > person is really willing to learn the system. and then i advice them > to start reading documents and join the _mailing list_ not the > organization. if i swayed them to using mandrake i also tell them that > user board at http://mandrakeusers.org gives excellent support. > Once you're already helping people by contributing your time and resources you already cease to being just a recipient of help but you already become a volunteer :) That already puts someone closer to qualify for PLUG membership as indeed other members would recognize a volunteer's effort. Someone's efforts might be evident in the mailing lists, while others just spread from word of mouth (happens a lot too).
You don't even need to be a member to help. No one stops anyone from presenting himself to help in PLUG activities (happens a lot especially during technical seminars - people would offer to help us), or even not just in PLUG activities but also activities of your own LUGs or social groups, universities, organizations, etc. -- Paolo Alexis Falcone [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
