On 6/27/05, cj pangilinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/24/05, Clair Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/24/05, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 6/23/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > One word: ratpoison.

There's a Ratpoison .deb in the universe! Whee! I now have Ratpoison
in Ubuntu ^_^

> >
> > Personally, I like using Ratpoison a lot because everything is in
> > fullscreen mode. I use Emacs a lot and I basically do almost anything
> > within Emacs: play media files, chat, browse, plan, attempt to learn
> > Python, learn Japanese, draft my articles, etc.  Aside from that I
> > don't have to worry about resizing things and it's quite easy to have
> > focus on the app that I am using like, for example, XPDF.  I'd rather
> > use keyboard shortcuts to move from one app to another and it's easy
> > in Ratpoison.  Well, as far as the way I am using it that is.
> 

These things are pretty nice right? But it's not everyone's thing =) 
JM, for example, doesn't really seem to enjoy IRC in Emacs *laughs*  I
use YodEl a lot as my chat client, and that is on the Windows port of
GNU Emacs ;)

> hello, can you give me a site to learn emacs. i never thought emacs
> can do those things you mentioned.. i search google found something
> but that doesn't give me a lot to learn bout emacs.. aside from man
> pages ha.. pag windows kasi gamit ko.. wla ako man pages e.. thanks..
> 

Learning Emacs came to me as I tried out Sacha Chua's Planner-el =) 
It gave me the basics of Emacs and I got used to using Emacs keyboard
shortcuts as I fiddled around with some stuff in my .emacs =)  So I
will give you the link to the Planner mode:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/PlannerMode

That is one of the most useful things I have found on Emacs.
Basically, I am learning Emacs as I constantly use it.  The Emacs Wiki
shows me some of the things that I can use on Emacs and I experiment
every once in a while by following the instructions on the various
pages.

This is the link to the Emacs Wiki --> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki

Go through each category and see if there's anything you would like to
try out and see for yourself.  Usually, you will get the .el file of
what you want, then you have to do something on your .emacs, which is
more often than not written on the page itself.  If you have trouble,
you could drop by the wiki page of the maintainer, get his/her contact
information then email.  That or you could post the question there
because it's a wiki anyway =)  Just make sure that you don't
accidentally delete the page ;)

That is how I am learning Emacs, basically.  The Emacs Wiki gives
nifty guides.  And well, there's always the Emacs users I know in real
life so I could just ask them over Y!IM or SMS or email.  Some of the
Emacs users I know on the list are Zak Elep (yep! Isn't it obvious?
^_-), JM Ibanez, Sacha Chua (Planner mode!) and myself.  I think Dong
Calmada also mentioned that he uses Emacs =)

Hope that helps!

-- 
Clair Ching
librarian, bookworm, information gatherer, anime fan, linux newbie
http://clair.free.net.ph - blog about linux, emacs planner, tech and culture
http://clair.pinoyweb.net - daily journal, stories, miscellany
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