All you need to do is find a PC distributor and see if you can afford the hardware
specs you drafted. If you don't have any idea kung anong specs ang kailangan,
I suggest you visit www.pcx.com.ph and look for the specs of the packages they
offer. They also have a downloadable price list para meron kang reference kung
kailangan mong i-modify yung specs.
I suggest that you stick to one distributor kasi pwede mo i-negotiate at pababaan
ang price ng hardware. Pwede mo na rin kausapin kung pwede na sila na ang
magkabit ng cables.
As for the software setup... If your choice is to use opensource, then try to find
or look for recommended distro na comfortable ka at madali matutunan ng
magbabantay ng shop. At this point, I don't have any experience on running
Windows-based games on *NIX kaya I cannot comment on that. Pero I've seen
screenshots of Lorma Linux with a successful install of Ragnarok (di ko lang alam
kung included sa disto nila yung Cedega/WineX ng www.transgaming.com).
Well you can always use Windows if you want as the last resort, then install it
with OpenSource alternatives (OpenOffice, GAIM, The Gimp, Chikka-MP, etc.).
For the cafe timer you can use Cybera which is also open source :-)
I strongly recommend to use a disk cloning/imaging solution para madali magrestore
ng mga problematic ng units. I use g4u (http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/) for disk imaging.
HTH
On 6/28/05, cj pangilinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/28/05, AC Perdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys!
> can any one redirect me or have a sample copy of a
> bussiness plan or proposal for internetcafe, i will be presenting it
> to my dad coz im planing to set up my own netcafe using opensource?
> The bussiness plan includes equipments(switch, utp cable) to be use,
> software needed (opensource monitoring of users logging in) and other
> service that i can provide. ill be starting with 10 pcs 1 server
> 356kbps DSL. Actually i have the idea but i dont now where to start.
ako din i have a plan like that.. pls post your reply to the list. thanks...
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
> On 6/27/05, Lito Lampitoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've tried Cedega and Winex on FC3 by installing NBALive 2004 and
> > Ragnarok Online. No success. Let me know if someone here made it.
> > For those who want to try, here is the link:
> >
> > http://www003.portalis.it/115/winexy2556954.html
> >
> > this isn't the Cedega subscriber's version though.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2005-26-06 at 18:08 -0700, Irvin Piraman wrote:
> > >
> > > Just recently I came across http://www.transgaming.com/ which offers a
> > > platform to run
> > > games (Windows-based) on Linux. Amazingly, they have a number of games
> > > listed
> > > on their database that can run on their platform, which includes some
> > > of the popular
> > > MMOPRG games like Ragnarok.
> > >
> > > Although at this point, a fully open-source powered internet cafe
> > > might be difficult to
> > > establish since there are only a select few who has first hand
> > > knowledge of Linux
> > > and other open source apps, which, is important when it comes to shop
> > > maintenance
> > > and troubleshooting.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > More than five years ago I installed for one College in Laguna
> > > Redhat 6.2
> > > for their computer laboratory and I am glad that up to now
> > > they are still
> > > using the operating system. Yup, more than five years without
> > > reinstallation. They were able to save enough money (on
> > > windows
> > > reinstallation alone which was done every semester before they
> > > used linux
> > > and licensing fees) that they can now shift to 64 bit
> > > computers (using
> > > Linux of course) which I believe should be used already in all
> > > universities
> > > and colleges.
> > >
> > > In order to attract students in using Linux, I installed Quake
> > > for Linux
> > > and became an instant hit among the students. It is quite sad
> > > tho that the
> > > company closed already and I had difficulty looking for new
> > > games.
> > >
> > > The use of 64 bit computers is the best way of convincing shop
> > > owners
> > > (hurry because Windows XP64 will be launched soon) and several
> > > Linux
> > > distros are now shipping this variant tho games are still
> > > lacking.
> > >
> > > JFTIONGSON
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clair Ching
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JM
> > > Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Main
> > > com> Philippine
> > > Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Discussion List"
> > > Sent by:
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
> > > inux.org.ph
> > > Subject: Re: [plug] Re: OS Bashing (from Is Linux for
> > > Losers)
> > >
> > > 06/24/2005 12:50 PM
> > > Please respond to
> > > Clair Ching; Please
> > > respond to "The Main
> > > Philippine Linux
> > > Users' Group (PLUG)
> > > Discussion List"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/24/05, JM Ibanez <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > On 6/23/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > > computer shop that doesn't offer computer games. It can be
> > > shown that
> > > in
> > > > > urban areas, computer shops are easily substituted for
> > > gaming arcades
> > > --
> > > > > in that almost all the people that pay to play in computer
> > > shops would
> > > > > want to play games more than surf the net.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I guess it varies from one area to another. Take for example
> > > the
> > > shops near schools (more like universities). A lot of the
> > > customers,
> > > as far I have observed, are into typing and internet surfing
> > > rather
> > > than gaming :)
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > On a related note, I've been talking to the owner of a shop
> > > where I
> > > > study (the school will remain nameless). Apparently, he's
> > > clued-in
> > > > with Linux and, though he wishes he can run it on the
> > > customer PCs, he
> > > > can't simply because of the games that the clientele run.
> > > OTOH, he is
> > > > quite a fan of Linux on the backend, having seen the wonders
> > > of
> > > > running several instances of the Counterstrike server on a
> > > Linux box,
> > > > vis-a-vis one instance on a Windows box. He believes in the
> > > backend
> > > > potential of Linux, and would be a hard sell in terms of
> > > Linux as a
> > > > desktop platform.
> > > >
> > > > I've been talking to him also about using Linux as a gateway
> > > and
> > > > bandwidth shaper. The shop does have a lot of MMORPG
> > > clients, and
> > > > although it's being fed by a 512kbps DSL line, there is a
> > > tendency to
> > > > bandwidth-grab when Internet browsers download stuff or
> > > listen to
> > > > Shoutcast, hence those activities are severely curtailed in
> > > the shop.
> > > > The owner does want to enable clients to listen to music or
> > > stream
> > > > videos, but he also wants to give MMORPG players a lag-free
> > > > experience. So, a Linux or even *BSD box acting as a
> > > bandwidth shaper
> > > > and gateway is a welcome thing.
> > > >
> > > > Why would this be a Good Thing? Well, in this case, the shop
> > > owner can
> > > > concentrate on providing more services to his clients-- it's
> > > a win-win
> > > > situation. People can listen to streamed music while gamers
> > > have
> > > > lag-free Ragnarok. With such a gateway box, the owner could
> > > likewise
> > >
> > > True. That would give customer satisfaction :D A must!
> > >
> > > > expand into other uses (say, being able to hook up a
> > > monitoring client
> > > > or even a cafe timekeeper), without too much additional
> > > cost. And the
> > > > enabling technology here is the Linux gateway-- not the
> > > desktop. ;)
> > > >
> > > > So maybe the desktop isn't a good fit at the moment. Big
> > > deal. The
> > > > backend is also an enabler, and does make good business
> > > sense.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Then again, case to case basis =) Depends on one's market. I
> > > suppose
> > > that this plan of the shop owner you have talked with is a
> > > win-win in
> > > his case and I think that he has really given it much
> > > thought. And
> > > that is good because it means that he has been looking around
> > > for
> > > means to keep his business running.
> > >
> > > In the case of the shop in Philcoa, I think that they'd be
> > > fine with
> > > Linux on the desktop because of the needs of their customers
> > > which are
> > > school-related more than gaming. There are other shops that
> > > offer
> > > games in the area and I guess that they have specific markets
> > > already.
> > >
> > > The good thing here is that there are various approaches and
> > > solutions
> > > that are available to them =)
> > >
> > > > > It boils down really to where the money is -- and right
> > > now (AFAIK)
> > > > > Linux/Open Source and Computer Shops do not mix well, and
> > > that's not
> > > > > where the money is.
> > > >
> > > > This is where I beg to differ. Although Linux will not
> > > prosper *at
> > > > front*, it will, as I point out, prosper at the backend.
> > > Eventually,
> > > > of course, we'll see shops with Linux desktops. Soon, my
> > > pretties. ;)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like a Grand Plan to me ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I still like Linux and it's place in the market
> > > -- only not in
> > > > > computer shops.
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes it's the invisible presence that counts more than
> > > the visible
> > > one.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let's wait and see what happens next. These might be exciting
> > > times =)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clair Ching
> > > librarian, bookworm, information gatherer, anime fan, linux
> > > newbie
> > > http://clair.free.net.ph - blog about linux, emacs planner,
> > > tech and
> > > culture
> > > http://clair.pinoyweb.net - daily journal, stories, miscellany
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