On 7/1/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I guess that's why I post on PLUG instead of plug-misc. I don't think > > PLUG should just be a venue for asking and answering technical > > questions, but also for sharing nifty hacks and examples of how far a > > Linux system can be pushed. Other people push their systems in terms > > of hardware and services. I push mine in terms of how well it can fit > > me, how well it can anticipate my needs. > > Indeed. Somehow, I felt that the previous comment about PLUG being a > `technical matters' list seems a turn-off for me (and perhaps, to the > new people on the lists as well). Though I understand the need for > keeping posts on-topic, and the responsibility for keeping myself from > expletively confabulating on minute matters, I feel it behooves me to > reflect on this matter. > > Is PLUG really just a tech list catering to folks who could write > programs, or could manage entire `enterprise' single-handedly, without > batting an eyelash? Or, is it for folks who are able to withstand > heated religious debates on Linux/FOSS issues *without* their asbestos > suits? > > The `growing a thicker skin' cliché is getting too worn out. And what's > worse, it seems that every small time some Linux/FOSS user or group of > users root for a particular application or system, some inconsiderate > bastards try to bring them down, simply because that rooting is > *clogging* the lists and they couldn't read the cold and impersonal > 110110 posts. >
Zak: Uhm, I think that maybe inconsiderate bastards it too strong a description here. I realized that maybe it wasn't meant to be a snide remark... This is a problem with textual information. We can't hear the tones and see the faces of the people who make remarks. > Let's face it: the PLUG lists *are* changing. For better, or for worse, > we all have yet to see it. But I know one thing, for sure: the number > of Linux users here in the Philippines is increasing, and even now, this > number is a working, living community of *people*, not just a mere > agglomeration of machines. > That is very true. And we are seeing how human we all are on this mailing list. People asking questions, the way we all interact, etc. > Hence, if we, as Linux community, would dismiss praising a Linux/FOSS > application (that not only runs on our favorite OS but on competitive > proprietary platforms that some of us are obviously ill-blooded to) as a > mere ego-stroking by that application's adherents, then we seriously > have a problem in our community. > Hmmmm. Ego-stroking? Well, I don't call it as such because I see it as more of encouraging others. ^_^ This is what I like about the community - encouraging people especially those who like learning and creating. I guess that some people don't really relish the long Emacs threads lately because there's been a lot. I am guilty of this as well because I really simply love Emacs to bits! (Anyone who reads any of my blogs can see that...) Anyhow, I suppose we all have to chill about this matter =) Every once in a while, a favorite app will be part of a long discussion. Can't help it. We are a group of people who like learning new things each day. It just so happens that Emacs is the current hot topic. ^_^ Cheers! ^__^ Enjoy the weekend, everyone! -- Clair Ching librarian, bookworm, information gatherer, anime fan, linux newbie http://clair.free.net.ph - blog about GNU/Linux, Emacs planner, tech and culture http://clair.pinoyweb.net - daily journal, stories, miscellany _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
