my two cents:
On 5/22/06, joebert jacaba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
yep. new distro doesn't cut it. we already have excellent distros around.
a better UI or rather, better user experience will get people to like linux more+training. think less like an engineer and more like a common user will give people better experience with linux. and give it some more eye candy.
faster boot... cut back on non-essential services and i believe fedora/suse or someone has already done the fast boot thing... but for the life of me i can't remember what its called. it loads some services first and does the others after getting to gdm/kdm/xdm-level of the boot process. i'm sure someone here knows about it.
makes us learn how its done from the ground up. other than that, nothing really. and there are excellent "linux from scratch" projects, gentoo being on top of the list. and source is good... for some of us.
we already have an excellent list of good package and distribution technology--- portage and apt. as for the entire "distro" bittorrent delivers excellent performance.
as for people on the desktop... it all comes down to cost. linux isn't exactly free as in free beer. you can give away installation cds, but how do you get Filipinos to buy support? making an OS is expensive, even if you just do distribution. Apple's 300-man army spent at least US$200M to build OSX. one needs to get that money back. how much does it take to build a pc? PHP15k more or less. how much would it take you to build an Operating System for it? and charge a customer for that cost? if you put in windows, that amounts to another PHP8k to PHP10k. is it viable to include a Linux OS at say, PHP5K? so US$500 and up machine isn't exactly expensive and the mac isn't exactly expensive. but we digress.
on the more technical note: the main problem to Linux being used on the desktop is:
1) user experience. just make it work right--- whether it is ubuntu, fedora, suse, gentoo or whatnut. example: wifi. install ubuntu on a laptop. everything about it should just work right? wifi? it should work without a user having to install additional drivers or reconfiguration for that matter. for you and me and everyone here at plug, we don't mind. it is part of the fun. it has to be made for the non-tech person.
2) training. give people time to "learn" linux--- where all the buttons are. how not to reboot, where openoffice is kept. etc. etc.
why not instead of making a new distro devote all our time making a good front end for linux.
yep. new distro doesn't cut it. we already have excellent distros around.
a better UI or rather, better user experience will get people to like linux more+training. think less like an engineer and more like a common user will give people better experience with linux. and give it some more eye candy.
optimize load speed of the graphical interface. i notice windows loads first the GUI before loading all the other drivers. it makes an impression that is faster loading compared to all other linux distro.
faster boot... cut back on non-essential services and i believe fedora/suse or someone has already done the fast boot thing... but for the life of me i can't remember what its called. it loads some services first and does the others after getting to gdm/kdm/xdm-level of the boot process. i'm sure someone here knows about it.
making a distro out of another distro could be a good exercise but what's the point. why not build it from scratch? if it will eliminate my habit of downloading a src then that would be better. why not introduce a new package and distribution technology? linux will only be successful on the desktop if the common people could use it.
makes us learn how its done from the ground up. other than that, nothing really. and there are excellent "linux from scratch" projects, gentoo being on top of the list. and source is good... for some of us.
we already have an excellent list of good package and distribution technology--- portage and apt. as for the entire "distro" bittorrent delivers excellent performance.
as for people on the desktop... it all comes down to cost. linux isn't exactly free as in free beer. you can give away installation cds, but how do you get Filipinos to buy support? making an OS is expensive, even if you just do distribution. Apple's 300-man army spent at least US$200M to build OSX. one needs to get that money back. how much does it take to build a pc? PHP15k more or less. how much would it take you to build an Operating System for it? and charge a customer for that cost? if you put in windows, that amounts to another PHP8k to PHP10k. is it viable to include a Linux OS at say, PHP5K? so US$500 and up machine isn't exactly expensive and the mac isn't exactly expensive. but we digress.
on the more technical note: the main problem to Linux being used on the desktop is:
1) user experience. just make it work right--- whether it is ubuntu, fedora, suse, gentoo or whatnut. example: wifi. install ubuntu on a laptop. everything about it should just work right? wifi? it should work without a user having to install additional drivers or reconfiguration for that matter. for you and me and everyone here at plug, we don't mind. it is part of the fun. it has to be made for the non-tech person.
2) training. give people time to "learn" linux--- where all the buttons are. how not to reboot, where openoffice is kept. etc. etc.
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