help, i can't play mp3 and breezy badger couldn't detect my modem. I'm using Ubuntu 5.10 and I'm a newbie...
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Re: [OT] Send Email from SMS (Roger Filomeno) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:08:20 +0800 > From: "Rogelio Serrano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] FOSS bill > To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical > Discussion List" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; > format=flowed > > On 9/8/06, Cocoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > that should be the very first thing on such piece > of legislation. open > > code/open file format/open document is more > important i think than an open > > source program. because everyone can access the > same piece of information. > > the dnd may not want a particular source code for > > encryption/decryption/spying to be blatantly out > in the open for national > > security reasons (which can be based on bsd-code > or closed software) for > > thats not true. the most popular encryption are open > source. everybody > knows how rsa, aes and des are implemented. > actually the US military > is going to adopt commercial software technologies > for their own > internet called the global information grid. > > > example but it sure would be great if the document > format that they use for > > their daily office work, can be shared with say, > the department of science > > and technology. interoperability is much much more > important in this world > > where everything IS shared. so it doesn't matter > what platform you're on--- > > linux, windows, osx or whatnut version 9.0. it > just works for everybody. > > yeah open format for a few years then full open > afterwards. i would > also like to impose hardware standards too because > foreign companies > are beginning to lock up the hardware. > > -- > the thing i like with my linux pc is that i can sum > up my complaints in 5 items > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:19:35 +0800 > From: Cocoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] FOSS bill > To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical > Discussion List" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > On 9/8/06, Andre John Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > of course, Cocoy, there is a way to do > encryption/decryption with all > > algorithms/code out in the open but still remain > secure: do public-key > > encryption. :D > > > > of course. i'm just saying we don't know what the > requirement could be in > the future. it could be a program based on bsd and > the government may want a > closed solution plugin for example that does may > meet a certain niche. and > the document does have that provision, i know. it > just reads that it is > skewed to one software methodology when it shouldn't > be. > > i just wanted to point out that open source programs > are less important than > open documents/protocols even open dvd standards > etc. etc. i apologize if i > wasn't being clear. open source isn't free beer, it > simply means the source > code is out there for you to see, to change if you > want to but you're > responsible to share your discoveries/changes with > others in the same manner > as you got it. it makes us all smarter and better. i > don't like to see we > favoring one method over another when both can exist > in the same environment > because they are just methods to form solutions. > open documents, open > interoperability is better because anybody can just > develop a solution to > access data--- free for all whether you favor one > method (open) or another > (closed) and that is democracy. > > but i agree...open interchange formats, whether > applied to protocols or > > files, are great. i'd even say this is essential. > otherwise....vendor lock > > in. > > > > i'd love to see that kind of thing as the very first > and most > straightforward thing this bill should be doing > (para no zealot in lawyers' > barong can construe it for their own purposes). this > bill will have teeth if > that happens and dapat whole hearted yung support > natin. > > > > > > On 9/8/06, Cocoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > exactly! ---> > > > > Open source program != open codec/file format. > Anyway, section 11, > > > which ammends the Intellectual Property Code > classifies protocols and > > > file formats as non-patentable. For "trade > secrets" like > > > CSS-decryption, well thats another story. I > guess that means the > > > government should encourage non-region encoded > DVD video. > > > > > > -- > > > Gideon N. Guillen > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > that should be the very first thing on such piece > of legislation. open > > code/open file format/open document is more > important i think than an open > > source program. because everyone can access the > same piece of information. > > the dnd may not want a particular source code for > > encryption/decryption/spying to be blatantly out > in the open for national > > security reasons (which can be based on bsd-code > or closed software) for > > example but it sure would be great if the document > format that they use for > > their daily office work, can be shared with say, > the department of science > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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