On 04 26, 07, at 10:39 PM, rexonf wrote:

On 4/26/07, Daniel Escasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I remember reading this maybe in some online forum: In brief, he tried
using AbiWord because he considered OpenOffice.org "bloated". Then he
needed a
feature that OOo Writer had and Abi didn't. Still consider that bloat?

OpenOffice is not bloated in terms of features. It's level with M$ Office 97, which for me is just about right. OpenOffice is simply low performant, slow startup and eats lots of memory.

oo's "slow startup and eats a lot of memory problem? it has improved over the years but still, we got to blame java for that.

i was watching David Pogue's TEDTalk titled "Simplicity Sells". Microsoft had an experiment a couple of years ago. They wrote a word processor. Just a word processor. it didn't do web pages, it didn't have database access. nada. it was called microsoft write and quite frankly, it didn't "sell" to great reviews. i didn't use it. did any of you use it?

Pogue argued that people like to have a bit of this or a bit of that because "they might need it someday". He called it the "SUV mentality".

For about a week now, i've been writing notes and at least two blog entries on a small text editor called "textmate". to be quite frank, there is something liberating in writing on a text editor. (i did that because i'm using a development version of camino... and sometimes when it opens a page with flash it just breaks and what i've written would go down with it, hence the text editor. which, looking back is a blessing in disguise.)

anyway long story short: while i've always used vi when editing configuration files or writing the simple script on linux and in fact, vim is one of the first apps i always install on a fresh linux box. i've never really cared much for simplicity on my desktop. and having written notes and two blogs using textmate. i must say, change of heart: imho, why would i need OO, other than for formatting purposes or for its spreadsheet? then again, just because you've got a cup holder in the car doesn't mean you have to use it. because, someone else may need that feature.

more than "bloat" i think 1) making our software more intelligent, 2) make life easier for our users by making our software more intuitive and easy to use, 3) stop treating our users like idiots, even when time after time we know a lot are, and 4) make software actually work.

in simplicity sells: Pogue said the old palm had tap counters who determined how long a user would need to do a particular task. if it took more than three taps--- it was too complicated.

he also said that software should be more intelligent. does it ever annoy you guys for example: in friendster, you need to delete a photo, you press delete and it asks you again if you're really sure you wanna delete? i find it SO annoying and particularly a waste of bandwidth. also to prove a point, pogue asked: why is it that to shut down a PC in windows, you need to press a button called "start" ?

one other point i'd like to raise, which quite frankly david pogue was right in raising: sometimes, may be just sometimes... wouldn't it be nice for developers for every couple of versions to just do some "spring cleaning" and fix all the problems in the code/make more efficient and actually make life easier for users instead of packing in "new cool features" to a software release?

that said, someone's junk is another man's need so i quite agree: software "bloat" is a relative and religious term. like vim v. emacs. kde v. gnome. macs v. windows. microkernel v. monolithic kernel. use it, don't use it. does it really matter? more importantly what really matters i think is that we should make software 1) more intelligent, 2) we should make life easier for our users and 3) stop treating users of our software, even when we know a lot of the time they are, like idiots.

just my two cents.
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Cocoy Dayao
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"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware." --Alan Kay



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